By now, if you are an active member in the Supergirl fandom community, you are undoubtedly aware that there is a lot going on with the Supergirl fan base. Division, attacks, collusion, planning, tweeting, posting, retaliation and so on. There is much that is dragging our fandom's reputation through the mud.
I want to give you a place where you all can come and discuss what is going on but I am going to set up some additional ground rules for this thread to help keep things more friendly because this could get out of hand very fast.
FIRST: There is a very easy tendency to make claims against certain groups that will generalize that group to a particular opinion. Please don't do this. For example: (Olicity "Oliver and Felicity shippers" all hate Laurel). That is clearly not true and no one could ever possibly know that. Its a sweeping generalization that causes those that are Olicity members who don't hate Laurel to become defensive. So please don't use sweeping generalizations in your observations.
SECOND: As much as possible, temper your emotions and take a moment to breathe before responding. We are discussing complex, difficult issues here. Issues that are reflected in the real world and have very real consequences. We are discussing topics here that have deep personal connections to a wide variety of people. You'll never know if your comment, however innocent you may feel it is, actually affects someone on the other side of the screen. So let's take a moment to note that these issues are very VERY complex and require care when brought up in conversation. Breathe and above all, be respectful.
FINALLY: My scrutiny meter on these posts is going to be at a maximum on this. If I feel, for whatever reason, that a post is in anyway hurtful, derogatory or attacking I am just going to delete it. I'll start tossing posts like Kobe hits three pointers (I'm not a basketball guy I have no idea if that analogy makes sense).
ADDITIONAL: (1) when speaking of LGBT+ to not make general assumptions about the community, especially for those not a part of it and (2) users who aren't LGBT+ should avoid speaking on behalf of the community.
Please be respectful and uphold the reputation of this site as a bright spot in the Supergirl fan community.
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- Supergirl General Discussion
- Friday, 14 July 2017
You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders.
At least i think we can all agree on one thing here and that is they could actually kill every character off on the show except Kara/Supergirl and the show would still be fine
Whaaaaaaa?????
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 221
I'll just leave this hear
What's the post he replied to?
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 223
I'll just leave this hear
What's the post he replied to?
I am investigating that. i'll get back to you
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 224
At least i think we can all agree on one thing here and that is they could actually kill every character off on the show except Kara/Supergirl and the show would still be fine
No. We need Winn and the Manhunter at the very least
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 225
He is not the reason. The reason is some of the SC fandom. That has been acting extremely immature and selfish and with no regard for people with other opinions than them. They have taken their assults to the writers, actors just because they want to control everything. Its not right. They really need to accept that not all have their opinion and that there is also many that like Mon-El.
Although I realize his character is a big reason for the hate plaguing the fandom, I thought the thread was meant to focus on the bad behavior of fans, not him.
Mon-El is a very touchy subject here. There are some very passionate opinions surrounding him and I didn't want to see the discussion around the toxicity of our fandom and how to change it turn into an internet fight over him. That was my only concern.
Liking mon el is exactly the problem. This is not a simple difference of opinion. This is support for a character who CANONICALLY owned slaves, who sidelines Kara on her own show, who replaced a black man as Kara's love interest and who has treated her very badly. This is not a matter of "I like the Guardian storyline!" "Eh, i thought it was dumb." Those are differences of opinion. This is a matter of real world issues.
Thank you for highlighting the problem. the problem is people that think they are of moral superiority to others and must save everyone else from some fictional character. I can assure you as an adult I dont need to be saved.
and btw Mon-El didnt own slaves. Everyone on daxam not named Queen Rhea was a slave. King Lar Gand disagreed with her and she killed him with impunity.
He did. When Kara called the royals out for slavery, Lar Gand says "Mon el, your.../servants/ were always treated well." The use of the word 'servants' was deliberate. Watch that scene again.
As for 'saving' people from mon el, that's not what I said at all. You asked me not to put words in your mouth. I ask you the same.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 226
In reference to the post that was put up from Chris Wood, that was after one of his co-stars on The Vampire Diaries was getting slammed by a fan. His Co-star was Kat Graham...as far as specifics of it, I don't know...I'm not a stan so I'm not going to spend hours going back through his IG posts to find out.
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 227
Actually 9-10 of those are in fact SC shippers. Its all hate for a selfish agenda to push on to the show. Its funny they call Kara and Mon-El toxic when there is nothing toxic about it. But to force 2 girls together the writers has said multiple times on the show that they are straight is definitely toxic.
I don't know what your deal is starlord, but you have a nasty habit of stating things like facts. "Actually 9-10 of those are in fact SC shippers" what the heck kind of statement is that? Are you out there polling fans? Maybe the fans you've interacted with are SC shippers but that doesn't mean you can make blanket statements like that.
You don't find them toxic, others do. That doesn't make you right and them wrong or them right and you wrong. How do you not get that? I think we can all agree that not everyone shares the same opinions, and opinions aren't wrong or right.
And please let's refrain from the lgbt stuff. That's a whole other can of worms that I believe none of us should open.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 228
From my experience its pretty much all SC shippers. Rahul said it best, Kevin Smith also. The SDCC moderator as well. Thalolli and others made it clear. When they only see something wrong with him and not the other relationship or characters its a clear agenda. Thalolli and evrafter listed these wrongs here.
Exactly, from your experience. So why are you constantly making blanket statements?
And we've already gone over all the stuff you point out, you're just bringing it up again to drive home a point we've already accepted. I don't understand your line of thinking; you seem to ignore anything negative about (I'm assuming) your favorite character and ship. You want others to take your truth and accept is as their own, but then get huffy when others want you to do the same.
Yes, Thalolli and evrafter made some great points. But what you fail to grasp is that the negativity here isn't just from one part of the shipdom. Yes some SC shippers take things too far, but so do some KM shippers (there are posts in this thread listing the things they have done). The fact that you refuse to accept that is baffling to me. How blinded can a person be?
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 229
Nope, I'm a karolsen. I posted about it a while ago; if you dig through the forum you can find the post.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 230
Holy crap Kelly that was an excellent breakdown of the groups within this fandom!
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 231
Dude...right on, Kelly! I couldn't have said it better, myself!
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 232
Kelly, I don't necessarily agree with all of it but it is a very detailed description of what you think makes up the Supergirl fandom.It is from what Ive read and seen on different sites, twitter and tumblr....over the past 5 months ...
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 235
"That's fair, you're right. Let me rephrase: You do not get to tell us that we should 'see both sides' when Jeremy and Melissa and others literally laughed at a lesbian ship."
Again, Jordan... I never told "y'all," not even insinuated y'all had to even look at the other side. In fact, I wasn't even addressing you. Heck, I wasn't even speaking to anyone in plarticular. I was simply saying I wasn't fully understanding why there was controversy afoot....that I might be seeing something different in what "occurred."
And here is an other example of what we non-shippers have been exhausted about....one can't even make a comment these days that might have a different perspective without being jumped.
I saw foul, vile comments starting RIGHT at the get go this morning coming from angry Katie fans, simply because SHE wasn't sitting on this couch, or because she was sitting in that 2nd row. Example: "Why didn' t you sit our queen on the couch, you dumb f...." Y'all can fill in the rest.
I truly don't think Jeremy Jordan, who's gay niece he fought for last summer to get her out of a so-called "rehabilitation" program," was making fun of SuperCorp because it's an LGBTQ shipdom.
Again, Jordan... I never told "y'all," not even insinuated y'all had to even look at the other side. In fact, I wasn't even addressing you. Heck, I wasn't even speaking to anyone in plarticular. I was simply saying I wasn't fully understanding why there was controversy afoot....that I might be seeing something different in what "occurred."
And here is an other example of what we non-shippers have been exhausted about....one can't even make a comment these days that might have a different perspective without being jumped.
I saw foul, vile comments starting RIGHT at the get go this morning coming from angry Katie fans, simply because SHE wasn't sitting on this couch, or because she was sitting in that 2nd row. Example: "Why didn' t you sit our queen on the couch, you dumb f...." Y'all can fill in the rest.
I truly don't think Jeremy Jordan, who's gay niece he fought for last summer to get her out of a so-called "rehabilitation" program," was making fun of SuperCorp because it's an LGBTQ shipdom.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 236
Aaannndd... To be very very clear... I'm not speaking to ANY one directly here. I'm seeing comments like under Jeremy's post and such that I'm trying to grasp.... 
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 240
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