The State of the Supergirl Fandom

Several abuse victims have said that he reminds them of their abuser. You think they're all delusional?

Littlestar, don't bother trying to reason with Kelly. These people can be confronted with all the evidence in the world and they'll still turn a blind eye because he's a hot white man. Let it go.

That is hysterical...but honestly, thank you for being honest with how you feel about it. Seriously... Keep it coming....

Several abuse victims have said that he reminds them of their abuser. You think they're all delusional?

I would not know if that were true or not for them, I don't know them personally as I stated before, if they saw that as abusive, more counseling may be needed for them...again, I don't know their situation i don't know if they have gone through any kind of counseling...they might need to watch what they are watching on TV if that bothered them that much.........I can only go by what I have experienced myself in my internships, and the people I have dealt with through that....

You are right Kelly. I agree with every word. There is nothing abusive or toxic about Mon-El or karamel. Its the SC fandom people that is abusive and toxic. If they really think what they think then they must have a problem with many couples on tv shows. We are talking all shows here and Movies and characters like My name here Starlord, Tony Stark, Bond, jaime from Outlander. Hell i could go on and on here.
We also have evidence of how toxic they are from Leanne The panel speaker at SDCC and known to champion Kara and Mon-El relationship. And she got hate for that from SC fandom. Thats not right.

Rahul Kohli from iZombie who guest starred on SG in s2 said in a video interview that SC fandom are toxic and hooligans.

Yesterday Kevin Smith got the taste from them as well on Twitter.

David disabled the comments on Instagram of a pic with Chris because he is afraid of this toxic side of the fandom is leaving hate upon hate. That is just so much wrong in their behavior. Its vile and toxic

Now i also even believe Katie see it herself as well. Its no accident Melissa posted that Katie took the pic of Chris, Mehcad and David. It was to show Katie likes Chris and i am sure they had an understanding to post this. But instead some of them again showed their toxic side. Its sad to see Katie coming on the show brings such vile people with her. I think this is also the sole reason she is not on any social media. She knows how toxic her fans are.
I just had to say something to side with Kelly on this she is one of the many that also is beginning to see how SC fandom are

Both sides, all sides, everyone one would seem to be behaving in a way that passionately defends their side. That seems like human nature. But if I had to sum it up this is what I see:

There is a side that feels the character of Mon-El is bad. Bad for Kara, bad influence, and they have gathered evidence to support their argument. I can't argue that. Makes sense. You can question the motives behind thoses determinations. Is it to remove him as an obstacle so Kara can have another love interest? Possibly. There are all sorts of motives. None is wrong.

On the other hand there is a group that likes Mon-El and believes that because his character is romantically tied to Kara they have a righteous power to protect him against all others. No one can touch him. James, Lena, Cat or whomever.

Now, both sides have made errors in my opinion. And let me be clear, not all are doing it, it's just some bad apples on the sides.

Here's where I get concerned, it's affecting the actors, showrunners, and crew. And not affecting them in terms of positive change. More like the whole fandom is being painted as bad apples and the fans' access to the actors and crew is being diminished.

Standing up for what you believe in is an important step in being American I believe, however there are ways of doing it right and doing it wrong.

Supergirl in the end is a product, developed by a business and designed to sell advertisements. That's it. It isn't going to cure cancer, it isn't going to change politics, and it isn't going to "fix" the country (if you feel that it needs fixing).

The truth is, Supergirl is left leaning because a market study showed that it wouldn't hurt the overall numbers. Furthermore arguments about "queer-bating" and what not are again all calculated and measured. There isn't a single decision made on any TV show that isn't taking into account the bottom line and that is $$$.

TV shows only affect social change because the advertising companies are willing to buy the ad spots. When Supergirl came to the CW it's ad costs went up by a huge percentage.

All the letter writing, campaigning and booing at conventions is going to do is push access to the celebrities further away. Even a PR nightmare like the 100 had with the Clexa thing ended up going nowhere because the numbers remained.

I think at this point I am digressing. What I really want more than all of this is to have the polite and well reasoned discourse again that this site is known for. I want us all to remember that we are fans of a show and we don't need to agree on everything but we can still be fans together.

All good points.

One thing I would like to add is that even thought I am a SC shipper, I don't think that Kara/Lena will ever be together. Even if Monel left there would just be someone else. The most important relationship on the show is Kara and Alex. In my opinion, Monel is disrespectful to Kara and doesn't listen to her.

After network chief Mark Pedowitz alluded to MIA Mon-El’s possible return at some point in Season 3, the TCA member who had asked him the question at hand opined, “Nobody wants that.” To which the network boss promptly replied with a smile, “I think some people would disagree with you on that.”

Oh and on the note of the Kevin Smith twitter incident from yesterday, the man went out of his way and responded to a hateful tweet. He was not tagged in the original tweet by the op, so how he found the tweet...who knows. The response he got from angry twitter fans yesterday is all on him. I'm not sure what he expected to happen by responding to hate tweets; he literally put himself in that ridiculous situation.

That being said, I'm not advocating for those initial disgusting tweets, but I am saying that he should have never given them the attention they clearly seek.

kevin smith has 3.22 million followers on twitter. so if you post pic of himpic I am sure he would be alerted. And since he is huge fans of both AK and Joss he was like thats all I needed to do was like Mon-EL?
his reply

reply from the original poster

and Kevin's reply to that

so it wasnt exactly like he decided to pick a fight with someone, the hate came his way.

Oh and on the note of the Kevin Smith twitter incident from yesterday, the man went out of his way and responded to a hateful tweet. He was not tagged in the original tweet by the op, so how he found the tweet...who knows. The response he got from angry twitter fans yesterday is all on him. I'm not sure what he expected to happen by responding to hate tweets; he literally put himself in that ridiculous situation.

That being said, I'm not advocating for those initial disgusting tweets, but I am saying that he should have never given them the attention they clearly seek.

My question to all is are there really that many fans who dislike Mon-El or are they just very vocal? Personally, I enjoy him. I think there is a great on-screen chemistry between Kara and Min-El. I believe t hat the EPs made a mistake in rushing the romance. They could have let develop over two seasons. That may have allayed angry fans.

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I hate to bring in more problems, but I think it requires attention. A fan on twitter has essentially stalked Melissa and Chris and found out where they live in Vancouver. This is a whole other level of bad behavior and I have no idea how to approach this. People have called out the person on twitter (even Ken, a well-known paparazzo among the fandom, has expressed his distaste for this person's actions).

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Any ideas on how to approach this sort of behavior? People have called them out already, should we leave it at that?

I hate to bring in more problems, but I think it requires attention. A fan on twitter has essentially stalked Melissa and Chris and found out where they live in Vancouver. This is a whole other level of bad behavior and I have no idea how to approach this. People have called out the person on twitter (even Ken, a well-known paparazzo among the fandom, has expressed his distaste for this person's actions).

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Any ideas on how to approach this sort of behavior? People have called them out already, should we leave it at that?

this is too far.

I would step away from it as it might actually get into legalities.

Ugh, Pedowitz annoys me, there's been MANY articles detailing how Mon-el is bringing down the show, plus the majority of the fandom hates the character but he's choosing to ignore this for some reason.

I can not see how anyone from SC Fandom can say Mon-El or karamels are hateful. I mean Where is it?

The prove is crystal clear to everyone to see its all some from the SC fandom doing the hating and acting immature and toxic.

It is from them writers gets harrassed
It is from them Chris is attacked Daily and got chased off Twitter
It was from them Jeremy got attacked
It was from them Smith got attacked
It was from them Leanne got attacked
It was from them Rahul Kohli got attacked

Just go to any new Tweet the official SupergirlCW Twitter posts. Or Supergirlstaff and writers. Its full of posts with hate for Mon-El and karamel. I see no Mon-El fans or karamel shippers write hate against sanvers or Lena/Katie there.
All they do is defend their favorites against the vile hate from SC fandom.

I hate to bring in more problems, but I think it requires attention. A fan on twitter has essentially stalked Melissa and Chris and found out where they live in Vancouver. This is a whole other level of bad behavior and I have no idea how to approach this. People have called out the person on twitter (even Ken, a well-known paparazzo among the fandom, has expressed his distaste for this person's actions).

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Any ideas on how to approach this sort of behavior? People have called them out already, should we leave it at that?

this is too far.

I would step away from it as it might actually get into legalities.