Who thinks that Mon-El and Kara have a chance of getting back together after what was released about the "heart wrenching" finale?

The posts on Twitter that I find the saddest are those that tweet that this or that relationship validates them, or makes them whole, or makes them feel like they are valid in some way. That to me is extremely sad commentary because that is putting all that you are into a fictional world and all of those things need to come from within, not from a fictional TV show. The numbers of these tweets are growing, and unfortunately, some of the actors involved in these ships are perpetuating that feeling IMO. When you as the actor "likes" or even says "thank you" or comments to these types of posts you are helping to perpetuate, IMO, a very, very harmful way of thinking to these people. IMO, the actors involved in some of these toxic fandoms have helped continue the vitriol because through their tweets, or likes and even some of the cons they are choosing to go to are perpetuating those feelings. I think it is sad and pretty damn scary.

And let me clear, I am not talking about the wonderful stories of people coming out because they felt inspired by Alex's story.....those are fantastic stories and should high fived for sure....but they should also begin to seek out people in their own lives to help support them in these times, not actors on a fictional show.

The posts on Twitter that I find the saddest are those that tweet that this or that relationship validates them, or makes them whole, or makes them feel like they are valid in some way. That to me is extremely sad commentary because that is putting all that you are into a fictional world and all of those things need to come from within, not from a fictional TV show. The numbers of these tweets are growing, and unfortunately, some of the actors involved in these ships are perpetuating that feeling IMO. When you as the actor "likes" or even says "thank you" or comments to these types of posts you are helping to perpetuate, IMO, a very, very harmful way of thinking to these people. IMO, the actors involved in some of these toxic fandoms have helped continue the vitriol because through their tweets, or likes and even some of the cons they are choosing to go to are perpetuating those feelings. I think it is sad and pretty damn scary.

And let me clear, I am not talking about the wonderful stories of people coming out because they felt inspired by Alex's story.....those are fantastic stories and should high fived for sure....but they should also begin to seek out people in their own lives to help support them in these times, not actors on a fictional show.

This. I feel the same way.

The rumors floating today came from reddit. I kinda sorta skimmed over them, and can't see how they are true, being they haven't filmed the finale, yet. I could see where rumors could occur for people on set as an episode is filming. But, being even the cast has said they don't know fully what is coming down the pipes until a week or two before hand, I'm just not thinking anything supposedly "leaking" right now would be true. Just my take on it.

Do we know what eoisode the Krypton scenes are on?

The posts on Twitter that I find the saddest are those that tweet that this or that relationship validates them, or makes them whole, or makes them feel like they are valid in some way. That to me is extremely sad commentary because that is putting all that you are into a fictional world and all of those things need to come from within, not from a fictional TV show. The numbers of these tweets are growing, and unfortunately, some of the actors involved in these ships are perpetuating that feeling IMO. When you as the actor "likes" or even says "thank you" or comments to these types of posts you are helping to perpetuate, IMO, a very, very harmful way of thinking to these people. IMO, the actors involved in some of these toxic fandoms have helped continue the vitriol because through their tweets, or likes and even some of the cons they are choosing to go to are perpetuating those feelings. I think it is sad and pretty damn scary.

And let me clear, I am not talking about the wonderful stories of people coming out because they felt inspired by Alex's story.....those are fantastic stories and should high fived for sure....but they should also begin to seek out people in their own lives to help support them in these times, not actors on a fictional show.

Well said.

Wanting people on a television show that we can relate to is understandable but, expecting that a television show in which problems are introduced and solved within 45 minutes to mirror real world experiences is unrealistic. Real life doesn't get all tidied up within 45 minutes or even an entire season of 45 minutes. In real life, people are introduced, people leave, we make life altering decisions, events impact our lives and we have to figure out ourselves, with the support of real life family and friends, the best way to deal with those situations. Someone who looks at a fictional show that is specifically created and thrives on creating conflict for its character's lives as support for one's own life is extremely dangerous, emotionally, for that person.

As for the actors, I think that they're put into a difficult situation with social media. They believe that they're being supportive and I think that they are also afraid of losing their own fans. But, they are unable to realize all of the possible implications of something as simple as a "like" or a friendly shout-out. The entertainment industry really needs to require producers to provide a class for all of its actors and crew on the dangers of fandoms and social media

The rumors floating today came from reddit. I kinda sorta skimmed over them, and can't see how they are true, being they haven't filmed the finale, yet. I could see where rumors could occur for people on set as an episode is filming. But, being even the cast has said they don't know fully what is coming down the pipes until a week or two before hand, I'm just not thinking anything supposedly "leaking" right now would be true. Just my take on it.

Do we know what eoisode the Krypton scenes are on?

Good question. I've seen pictures on Twitter of set props coming from fans watching this week's on location filming. They're speculating it's Krypton. Eric/Kelsey...do y'all know episode #?

The rumors floating today came from reddit. I kinda sorta skimmed over them, and can't see how they are true, being they haven't filmed the finale, yet. I could see where rumors could occur for people on set as an episode is filming. But, being even the cast has said they don't know fully what is coming down the pipes until a week or two before hand, I'm just not thinking anything supposedly "leaking" right now would be true. Just my take on it.

Do we know what eoisode the Krypton scenes are on?

Good question. I've seen pictures on Twitter of set props coming from fans watching this week's on location filming. They're speculating it's Krypton. Eric/Kelsey...do y'all know episode #?

episode 20 has some “Argo” city scenes yes. But before we go on, in light of the tumblr spoilers that were leaked earlier this week, we have it on good authority that much of what was said is wrong. It was a plausible outcome presented as fact. So we urge much caution about reading into any of that mess

The rumors floating today came from reddit. I kinda sorta skimmed over them, and can't see how they are true, being they haven't filmed the finale, yet. I could see where rumors could occur for people on set as an episode is filming. But, being even the cast has said they don't know fully what is coming down the pipes until a week or two before hand, I'm just not thinking anything supposedly "leaking" right now would be true. Just my take on it.

Do we know what eoisode the Krypton scenes are on?

Good question. I've seen pictures on Twitter of set props coming from fans watching this week's on location filming. They're speculating it's Krypton. Eric/Kelsey...do y'all know episode #?

episode 20 has some “Argo” city scenes yes. But before we go on, in light of the tumblr spoilers that were leaked earlier this week, we have it on good authority that much of what was said is wrong. It was a plausible outcome presented as fact. So we urge much caution about reading into any of that mess

Excellent news....

WestAllen was obviously endgame as it had been his stated goal since the very beginning, the narrative bended around that, and it was the way in the source material. You can’t even really call it a ship because it’s just a part of the natural story.

Nothing on Supergirl is like that. I wish we had it, that’s the thing, because The Flash is so good without all the alternating romance, but so far nothing on this show is depicted like that.

Honestly this show needs two things. Either no pairings ever, or an actual endgame pairing. CW writers have an unhealthy obsession of milking separation drama. It creates chaos like this.

Which is why Flash, which has a endgame pairing with which no one can argue, has peaceful, normal fans. The focus isn’t on the romance and that’s not what its fans care about.

Arrow and Supergirl milks the relationship drama and that attracted tons with the “ship” mentality, until they cannot even try to give Kara a friend without thousands chanting they want them to bang.

Flash does not have peaceful fans....ask Candice Patton..... she has gotten all kinds of tweets aimed at her. And there are those that are extremely ticked off that Barry married Iris... They are extremely vocal.

Honestly this show needs two things. Either no pairings ever, or an actual endgame pairing. CW writers have an unhealthy obsession of milking separation drama. It creates chaos like this.

Which is why Flash, which has a endgame pairing with which no one can argue, has peaceful, normal fans. The focus isn’t on the romance and that’s not what its fans care about.

Arrow and Supergirl milks the relationship drama and that attracted tons with the “ship” mentality, until they cannot even try to give Kara a friend without thousands chanting they want them to bang.

Flash does not have peaceful fans....ask Candice Patton..... she has gotten all kinds of tweets aimed at her. And there are those that are extremely ticked off that Barry married Iris... They are extremely vocal.

But if you do go to any random tweet about the Flash from the CW or the actors, you will not see anyone talking about ships. On Supergirl, on any tweet, the comments are basically all about ships

I read the rumored spoilers and just rolled my eyes. Probably a disgruntled Sanvers or Arrow fan wanting to stir the Supergirl pot.

Anyone who actually knows the finale wouldn't reveal secrets.

Can someone please give me a TLDR about what the rumours are?

There are bits and pieces of the rumors that could be true....I have always thought that one of the reasons for them not immediately renewing like they did last year was you possibly had several on Supergirl renegotiating contracts after possible 3 year contracts were ending this season. That would possibly be David, Mehcad, Jeremy, and Chyler... so I could see some leaving, some trimming down their time and some coming back just as they have for the first 3 years.

So, we shall see....I however do not see #Karamel back together at the end of this season....I see Alex possibly with a new someone in her life. The only thing I see possibly that I don't really like is that it seems New Krypton will be only a few episode arc.....this could encompass an entire season, and should in my opinion...so hopefully I'm wrong in that guess and it is simply the lead up to a great finale and a possible lead in to may a big New Krypton arc and maybe even a Super Woman arc.

So I am getting several messages today about the spoilers that leaked and I guess people are pointing to this thread about it. Let me explain here so I can be done with it. I am not going to comment on which spoilers are correct and which are made up. Our site is here to support the show and the show does not benefit from this kind of speculating. We think you can either read them, panic and or delight in them and still wonder if they are true, or you can watch the show as it happens and enjoy it as it is intended to be viewed. Yes we have a spoilers section, but we gauge everything we put on there. Nothing is there that the show wouldn't approve of.

In the end, just remember, if it isn't from an official source, there is no way to know if it is true. Just because its plausible, doesn't make it inevitable.

Spoilers, rumors, etc...are simply something that comes with the territory of any show. There is no way to get away from it other than simply don't get on your computer. People are going to speculate, there is nothing wrong with that, that is part of the fun of following these shows, especially superhero shows.

sure.....

I just don't think that they have been put up as a choice, so here is the way you do it.

using these [ ] type the word spoiler in the bars, then type what you want to type and then the same thing at the end, only put a / before the word spoiler. That is the code for spoiler tags. When you do that, you will see what you see up in my post. The only way to see what was typed is to toggle over it. Pretty simple.....but spoilers, rumors, speculation is going to happen on any message board, that is just how it is.

I didn't even think twice about copy/pasting what people are chatting about because I think the whole thing is hogwash. From everything we've heard, the entire Supergirl cast and crew are fiercely dedicated to the show. None of them are going to go and leak the ending. So, I'm currently imagining some anti-supergirl Internet user laughing his/her head off at the mayhem that's ensueing among some fans after he/she completely just made something up and posted.

So... Sorry Eric if my post to answer Fedguy's request caused you headaches today.

People people people... It's a show. Sit back. Watch. Relax. Enjoy. We haven't a CLUE how this journey's gonna end. It's been an incredible season...and we still have 9 glorious week's left to experience.

Spoilers, rumors, etc...are simply something that comes with the territory of any show. There is no way to get away from it other than simply don't get on your computer. People are going to speculate, there is nothing wrong with that, that is part of the fun of following these shows, especially superhero shows.

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NOW, should people use spoiler tags?

sure.....

I just don't think that they have been put up as a choice, so here is the way you do it.

using these [ ] type the word spoiler in the bars, then type what you want to type and then the same thing at the end, only put a / before the word spoiler. That is the code for spoiler tags. When you do that, you will see what you see up in my post. The only way to see what was typed is to toggle over it. Pretty simple.....but spoilers, rumors, speculation is going to happen on any message board, that is just how it is.

Lol I thought typing in bold then adding several spaces after "Warning warning warning.... If anyone doesn't want to know the rumors, scroll past this post:" would have done the job. I guess I assumed too much? Lol I should have known better... I mean... I teach high school.

I don't think attending cons is something the actors cannot do if they have a chance. As someone said on a forum I read, if the actors refused to go to these cons, they would be harassed too. Melissa was insulted by that guy who was an organiser. Pretty sure, if it is an LGBT con, some people (emphasis on some) would even consider those who refuse to go a bigot. Also.. it is possible the showrunners/and producers themselves encourage attending the cons. It is good promotion for them.

Besides... Media and entertainment--the stories that are told--that does mean a lot to people; especially to scary teens in lonely circumstances who wonder if something is wrong with them because they are different from everyone around them. As someone said.. ."Monsters don't cast reflections. Not seeing your reflection will make a monster out of you" ; or make you feel like monster.

But expecting any kind of reflection rather than generic and archetypal is not good. And as Kelly says it is harmful. Beyond just the initial superficial validation, for any innate contentment, you should look towards the real world and what it offers; friendship, jobs, relationships, hobbies. To base your happiness on what fiction does...well, they would need help. Also, there would be a difference between pleasure and happiness. You may be pleased that something happens your way in a story or show you follow. Just like you would be happy if you were to get a cup of coffee you like when you are tired. But, happiness would be so much more and it should be about your life and what happens in it.

PS; about ships; Chyler said during Clexacon (I watched Alex's panel) that Alex's identity is not about her relationship; that the arc was a way for her to grow and know more about herself; which is also true for Kara.. and everyone else, really.

I don't think attending cons is something the actors cannot do if they have a chance. As someone said on a forum I read, if the actors refused to go to these cons, they would be harassed too. Melissa was insulted by that guy who was an organiser. Pretty sure, if it is an LGBT con, some people (emphasis on some) would even consider those who refuse to go a bigot. Also.. it is possible the showrunners/and producers themselves encourage attending the cons. It is good promotion for them.

Besides... Media and entertainment--the stories that are told--that does mean a lot to people; especially to scary teens in lonely circumstances who wonder if something is wrong with them because they are different from everyone around them. As someone said.. ."Monsters don't cast reflections. Not seeing your reflection will make a monster out of you" ; or make you feel like monster.

But expecting any kind of reflection rather than generic and archetypal is not good. And as Kelly says it is harmful. Beyond just the initial superficial validation, for any innate contentment, you should look towards the real world and what it offers; friendship, jobs, relationships, hobbies. To base your happiness on what fiction does...well, they would need help. Also, there would be a difference between pleasure and happiness. You may be pleased that something happens your way in a story or show you follow. Just like you would be happy if you were to get a cup of coffee you like when you are tired. But, happiness would be so much more and it should be about your life and what happens in it.

PS; about ships; Chyler said during Clexacon (I watched Alex's panel) that Alex's identity is not about her relationship; that the arc was a way for her to grow and know more about herself; which is also true for Kara.. and everyone else, really.

I agree.....wholeheatedly with your comments on the cons. HOWEVER, there is good and bad timing, and IMO, there was some bad timing on this. There is far too much drama within some fandoms that are relentlessly targeting the writers and show runners calling for firings, etc. IMO, and again this is just my opinion....right now silence is golden and very much something that I think is needed to show cohesion within the inner workings of this series....AT THIS TIME. NOW, if they write Alex into another relationship, and that relationship continues to grow, then yes by all means, Clexacon here she comes. I, me, my opinion is....this was not good timing.

It might be best if the actors/writers/showrunners keep quiet as much as possible from now until the finale. Melissa probably has a mandatory appearance at upfront where she’ll get asked questions but she’s pretty good at evasion. Let the network release synopsis/sneak peaks ect to speak for the show.