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Another blog for episode 12 from Canadagraphs.

https://twitter.com/canadagraphs/status/1383116045888622594

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#Supergirl episode 6x12 filming with Azie Tesfai and David Ramsey yesterday

https://canadagraphs.weebly.com/supergirl-blogs/supergirl-episode-6x12-scenes-azie-tesfai-david-ramsey

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The blog confirms that David Ramsey is in episode 12 as Diggle as well as directing it.
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I would not be surprised if Stargirl took over Supergirl's production location in Vancouver. I feared costs would limited its run on CW. Still surprised Black Lightning, which also films in GA, ended this season. Probably this will play in its favor. At the same time, I'd have to lose an important cast member like Supergirl lost Calista. If Naomi makes the schedule, I am curious if it will be on Earth Prime or Earth 2 or elseworlds.

In other not really Supergirl news but somewhat related... did anyone see Legends this week and see how Big Belly Burgers got its start?
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In other not really Supergirl news but somewhat related... did anyone see Legends this week and see how Big Belly Burgers got its start?

I guffawed. :D
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I would not be surprised if Stargirl took over Supergirl's production location in Vancouver. I feared costs would limited its run on CW. Still surprised Black Lightning, which also films in GA, ended this season. Probably this will play in its favor. At the same time, I'd have to lose an important cast member like Supergirl lost Calista. If Naomi makes the schedule, I am curious if it will be on Earth Prime or Earth 2 or elseworlds.

In other not really Supergirl news but somewhat related... did anyone see Legends this week and see how Big Belly Burgers got its start?



I saw it.The episode reminded me a little of the Buffy season 6 episode,"Doublemeat Palace."
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Chyler Leigh talks to The Wrap about tonight's reunion between Alex & Kara.

https://www.thewrap.com/supergirl-chyler-leigh-reveals-danvers-sisters-reunion-was-one-irl-too/
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Chyler Leigh talks to The Wrap about tonight's reunion between Alex & Kara.

https://www.thewrap.com/supergirl-chyler-leigh-reveals-danvers-sisters-reunion-was-one-irl-too/



"tonight's reunion"

If it can be called that. I can think of several scenes that could have been shortened in favor of a longer emotional payoff between Kara and the rest of the cast.
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Well. I think we're at the point where the site is going to hit a bit of a lull, until the show starts up, again, in late August.

The show itself will have wrapped filming, completely, by that point. Even I will have graduated and left Vancouver before it picks up, again.

I think my biggest hopes, between now and then, are updated promotional materials, including new posters that include Supergirl with her updated look. Ideally, a solo character poster for her. I'm also not the biggest fan of highlighting the supporting cast, but I can see the justification in putting out updated posters for them, as well (especially with Alex having a new hero identity as Sentinal). Especially since they gave one to Kelly as the new Guardian.

I hope they give the show the promotion it deserves. Not only that, but I hope they take better care in the editing room. Learning that David filmed a longer reunion hug between our 3 OG cast members, and that it was cut for time by someone above him, was devastating. There were much better choices for cutting, that would have given us a better emotional payoff at the end. Whoever, above the episodic directors, is making these cuts, needs to do better in making the cuts support the story, instead of just chopping off whatever is at the end, for time.

I AM let down at the this first stretch of the season, because after 6 PZ episodes, we needed that emotional payoff after the rescue. No matter how good the rest of the episodes were, botching that ending sours the milk, if you know what I mean. Kinda ruins the whole arc because it ended poorly, IMO. If they'd given more time to that ending, it could have made the entire arc better, in my opionion.

However, not only is Melissa back, for the remaining 13 episodes, but they are filming outside in Vancouver at an utterly unprecedented rate, from what I can tell. Supergirl has barely gone a week, in the past two months, without filming some big outdoor set piece. 2-3x more than I've seen for any of the other Arrowverse shows filming around town.

So, despite my bitterness at the first arc of the season, my hopes are actually pretty high for the remaining episodes.
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I think my biggest hopes, between now and then, are updated promotional materials, including new posters that include Supergirl with her updated look. Ideally, a solo character poster for her. I'm also not the biggest fan of highlighting the supporting cast, but I can see the justification in putting out updated posters for them, as well (especially with Alex having a new hero identity as Sentinal). Especially since they gave one to Kelly as the new Guardian.


Funny you should ask about a poster,because The CW just released a new one.Now it's not a Supergirl specific poster .It's a Arrowverse poster but Supergirl is a apart of it.But she is still sporting the bangs.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/superman__lois/the-heroes-of-the-cwverse-suit-up-in-an-awesome-new-poster-for-the-networks-dc-comics-shows-a184795

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David Ramsey previews his Arrowverse return with TV Line.

https://tvline.com/2021/05/17/arrow-diggle-green-lantern-journey-david-ramsey-flash-legends-of-tomorrow/

Lots of new info about his appearances on each Arrowverse show.The first will be the June 13th episode of Batwoman.Also a first look at his mysterious Legends character.

https://tvline.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/legends-6x08-david-ramsey.jpg
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A cut wink to Supergirl on S&L

https://tvline.com/2021/05/18/supergirl-superman-and-lois-season-1-cancelled-crossover-moment/

I honestly can't imagine that scene opening an cans of worms.


Neither can I.Especially since Diggle is appearing across most of the Arrowverse shows this year.

I do hope things work out in the future and while I know some want Melissa to completely move on.I can't lie and say that I wouldn't love if she could pop back in on occasion for a guest appearance or crossover event.
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It's been well over a week since the last episode aired. I've had some time to let it settle. I was hoping time would improve my view of this opening arc, but it really hasn't.

In both episode 2 and episode 7, we really should have explored Kara's fears while she was in the PZ. The most frustrating part of this is that it didn't necessarily require any new footage with Melissa. They could have shown her most traumatic experiences, using archive footage. Krypton exploding. Kenny's death in Midvale. Her Red K infection from "Falling". Zoom nearly cutting out her heart. Her beating at Reign's hands. Reign killing her friends from the season 3 finale. Lena's turning on her in season 5, in the fortress. Even her "death" at Lex's hands in the season opener.

Any combination of these clips could have illustrated Kara's fears while in the PZ, and would have cost literally nothing, as it was pre-existing footage.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but I can't help feel that there were some truly missed opportunities, even if we factor in Melissa's limited availability.

Speculating about how the season will move forward, I'm curious what they will do with Zor-El. I doubt they will do it, but I'd really love to see Zor-El be converted to Cyborg Superman 2 and be the final big bad. I'm kinda sick of Lex. He's literally been the big bad for 2 out of 5 seasons. If they make him the baddie in season 6, that will be half the series. That's too much.
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EW interviews David Ramsey about his Arrowverse return

https://ew.com/tv/arrowverse-david-ramsey-green-lantern-superman-legends/

There are some specifics about his Supergirl episode later in the interview.
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Quoting comic fan: "I wouldn't be surprised if this where Cress Williams will appear.And I won't lie,it would be so great if Melissa appears in it and other Supergirl characters.Almost like a final farwell to her fellow Arrowverse heroes."

It would be fabulous if this would happen!
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"So it sounds like Flash Season 8 will premiere in November with this five episode crossover Flash event after Stsrgirl Season 2/Supergirl Season 6 wraps airing.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is where Cress Williams will appear.And I won't lie,it would be so great if Melissa appears in it and other Supergirl characters. Almost like a final farwell to her fellow Arrowverse heroes."

Gonna rain on this fan-baiting parade of nostalgia here.

Melissa's currently not under contract to The Flash in any capacity, so the probability of her being available to do this "Hail Mary" stunt for another EP's aging show seems remote, since she's got her YA book series launch happening in October (not to mention her own production development deal with WB-TV). Supergirl wraps filming well before The Flash will even set up before their Season 8 gets underway, and Vancouver still has two-week quarantine restrictions in place due to COVID19. The Supergirl writers room has allegedly already closed down.
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Okay, I can hear where you're coming from. But please hear me out.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. But this is definitely not a "hail mary".

1) NOBODY from other shows is under contract with The Flash. Not a single person. But these 5 event episodes are happening, and they are kicking off the season. That is established. All that takes, contract wise, is negotiating a one-off appearance. No matter who they get for these crossovers, that is the type of negotiation that is going to need to happen.

2) Yes, Melissa has her book launch in October, and Vancouver still has two-week quarantine restrictions. BUT, as I previously mentioned, Supergirl wraps in August and Flash is starting production on season 8 in September. Melissa, Chris, and their child already have a place in Vancouver. All it takes is staying for an extra 4-6 weeks at a place they already live. (Side note, there is the possibility that, by then, fully vaccinated people, who can show documentation, may be able to bypass quarantine restriction requirements. This is an ongoing process.)

3) There are 5 "Event Episodes". But there are only 3 Arrowverse shows, other than The Flash, still filming in BC. Legends, Batwoman, and Superman & Lois. The other crossover options are Supergirl, which is based in BC but ending, Black Lightning, which was based in Georgia and has ended, and Stargirl, which is also based in Georgia, and has it's own new season order. It is high probability that, to fill out these "Event Episodes", they will bring in characters from at least 2 out of these 3 properties. So no matter what, SOMEBODY is going to have to come to BC from the outside and quarantine. But as previously explained, it would not be as big a hurdle for Melissa, who is already here, and already has housing. No matter who comes to do the crossover from the States, they will still likely have to arrive in late August to start their quarantines.

4) Melissa's book launch isn't until October 19th. If The Flash starts filming these "Event Episodes" in September, that's plenty of time to get her back to the States for her launch. And that's with the extremely generous assumption that she needs to physically be there. Maybe she'll do physical book tours, maybe she wont. But with how private she is, and the ongoing caution regarding COVID, despite vaccine rollout, it's actually probable they may not do any sort of physical touring book launch with Melissa and her sister.

5) Melissa's production company has a contract with WB. While her work on Supergirl pre-dates that contract and does not have ties to it, agreeing to do a one-episode crossover would help continue to foster her good relations with Warner.

Again, I'm not saying Melissa will participate in these event episodes. I just wanted to illustrate why I wouldn't classify it as a "hail mary". Honestly, of all the crossover options, The Flash, as a show, has the most history with Supergirl, and narratively, makes much more sense than crossovers with Legends, Batwoman, Superman & Lois, or Stargirl. Am I being hopeful? Yes, absolutely. Largely because the COVID restrictions, this past season, have robbed us of one last crossover involving Supergirl. I can acknowledge that I am being a bit of an optimist with this.

If I'm being totally honest, I personally wish that one Event Episode would involve both Supergirl and Superman, to give them one last interaction, as well, before Melissa hangs up the cape. But I'll admit that is wishful thinking.

Nicely put Kdogg and most of us would love to see Supergirl as a guest star. However, based on what I've seen these past 3 seasons, in my opinion, when Melissa's contract obligations are fulfilled she will not walk away but freaking run away.
Of course her starring role in Supergirl launched her career and as an actress and singer she has honed and expanded her talent. She has grown while the show has been stagnant. I think we will see her again but not in these type of shows.

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Gonna rain on this fan-baiting parade of nostalgia here.

Melissa's currently not under contract to The Flash in any capacity, so the probability of her being available to do this "Hail Mary" stunt for another EP's aging show seems remote, since she's got her YA book series launch happening in October (not to mention her own production development deal with WB-TV). Supergirl wraps filming well before The Flash will even set up before their Season 8 gets underway, and Vancouver still has two-week quarantine restrictions in place due to COVID19. The Supergirl writers room has allegedly already closed down.




Okay, I can hear where you're coming from. But please hear me out.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. But this is definitely not a "hail mary".

1) NOBODY from other shows is under contract with The Flash. Not a single person. But these 5 event episodes are happening, and they are kicking off the season. That is established. All that takes, contract wise, is negotiating a one-off appearance. No matter who they get for these crossovers, that is the type of negotiation that is going to need to happen.

2) Yes, Melissa has her book launch in October, and Vancouver still has two-week quarantine restrictions. BUT, as I previously mentioned, Supergirl wraps in August and Flash is starting production on season 8 in September. Melissa, Chris, and their child already have a place in Vancouver. All it takes is staying for an extra 4-6 weeks at a place they already live. (Side note, there is the possibility that, by then, fully vaccinated people, who can show documentation, may be able to bypass quarantine restriction requirements. This is an ongoing process.)

3) There are 5 "Event Episodes". But there are only 3 Arrowverse shows, other than The Flash, still filming in BC. Legends, Batwoman, and Superman & Lois. The other crossover options are Supergirl, which is based in BC but ending, Black Lightning, which was based in Georgia and has ended, and Stargirl, which is also based in Georgia, and has it's own new season order. It is high probability that, to fill out these "Event Episodes", they will bring in characters from at least 2 out of these 3 properties. So no matter what, SOMEBODY is going to have to come to BC from the outside and quarantine. But as previously explained, it would not be as big a hurdle for Melissa, who is already here, and already has housing. No matter who comes to do the crossover from the States, they will still likely have to arrive in late August to start their quarantines.

4) Melissa's book launch isn't until October 19th. If The Flash starts filming these "Event Episodes" in September, that's plenty of time to get her back to the States for her launch. And that's with the extremely generous assumption that she needs to physically be there. Maybe she'll do physical book tours, maybe she wont. But with how private she is, and the ongoing caution regarding COVID, despite vaccine rollout, it's actually probable they may not do any sort of physical touring book launch with Melissa and her sister.

5) Melissa's production company has a contract with WB. While her work on Supergirl pre-dates that contract and does not have ties to it, agreeing to do a one-episode crossover would help continue to foster her good relations with Warner.

Again, I'm not saying Melissa will participate in these event episodes. I just wanted to illustrate why I wouldn't classify it as a "hail mary". Honestly, of all the crossover options, The Flash, as a show, has the most history with Supergirl, and narratively, makes much more sense than crossovers with Legends, Batwoman, Superman & Lois, or Stargirl. Am I being hopeful? Yes, absolutely. Largely because the COVID restrictions, this past season, have robbed us of one last crossover involving Supergirl. I can acknowledge that I am being a bit of an optimist with this.

If I'm being totally honest, I personally wish that one Event Episode would involve both Supergirl and Superman, to give them one last interaction, as well, before Melissa hangs up the cape. But I'll admit that is wishful thinking.


Pretty much nailed my hopes and thoughts.Couple of added points.

1)Cress Williams said he was approached back in the Fall.He was then approached again,two months ago.He confirmed that he's not signed on yet.These are still just talks.So nobody is signed on yet for this event,it sounds like.As he said in the interview,now that Black Lightning is finished,he's moving/moved back to California making a trip up to Vancouver easier for any guest spot vs being based in Atlanta when the show was filming.It's amazing they even got him for Crisis.

2)There are rumors that Stargirl may be moving filming to Canada and possibly taking over Supergirl's space in Vancouver for season 3.If that pans out,having Stargirl appear will become a lot easier.

3)This just wild speculation that I've posted elsewhere but it goes along with what you and muckle9999 bring up.Supergirl wraps in August while Flash starts filming in September.Melissa & Chris have a place already in Vancouver.What do you think about the idea of Melissa being offered the opportunity to direct one of these 5 episodes in addition to appearing?It may be worth her while to stay in Vancouver a few extra weeks if she's appearing and directing.Sort of like how David Ramsey directed this weeks Superman & Lois but is appearing in episode 12.Same with MAJOR! spoiler alert for The Flash
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Tom Cavanagh.He's returned to Canada to appear in the season finale of The Flash and then is going over to direct the season finale of Superman & Lois.
.I got the impression that Melissa enjoyed directing last year(and she did a great job with her episode),and since I'm sure her maternity leave prevented her directing again this year,maybe the chance to direct one of the event episodes could entice her creatively to sign on and stick around a few extra weeks.She could direct one of the five and appear in one of the other four .What do you think of my idea/speculation?Probably won't happen but it is a idea that popped into my head a few days ago.
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However, based on what I've seen these past 3 seasons, in my opinion, when Melissa's contract obligations are fulfilled she will not walk away but freaking run away.
Of course her starring role in Supergirl launched her career and as an actress and singer she has honed and expanded her talent. She has grown while the show has been stagnant. I think we will see her again but not in these type of shows.


Okay, admins, please forgive me, as I'm about to make a post that doesn't really speculate about the show, but rather how the show has likely impacted an actor's life. The things I'm about to mention are public information, and are not due to prying or digging into their private life.

I mean...yeah, the show has problems narratively. That's not in doubt, but I have heard nothing about Melissa personally having problems with the production, cast members, or crew members. I think "running away" is an extreme interpretation. It's her work with THIS show that gave her not only her first directing opportunity, but an entire workshop on HOW to direct with Warner. It's no doubt that her work with THIS show that built her relationship with Warner and allowed her new production company to cement a contract with them.

It gave her a dear friendship with Kevin Smith, a filmmaker who's films she loved, growing up, and they were close enough for him to attend her wedding. She's also incredibly close to Chyler, which has been stated publicly, many times.

The cast and crew members of this show have been there for her as she dealt with and exited an abusive relationship, went through a divorce, introduced her to her new husband, adjusted her return date to filming so she could make her Broadway debut, and worked around her schedule for her maternity leave, despite an already absurdly long hiatus due to COVID.

Yeah...a large percentage of us have problems with the writing and some creative decisions. But I feel like this show has treated Melissa, as a person, with love and respect, and has given her many opportunities she wouldn't have had, otherwise. For all of these reasons, I don't think she's running away with the intensity you suggest, when the show wraps.
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I had just read that CBR article and was checking to see if anyone posted the link to it yet on this site.

I think Kara could and should get a proper ending to her show on Supergirl proper. But, yes she could return for the Flash crossover event. I'd love it to be the Superfriends, as Barry set up Arrowverse's Hall of Justice in Central City... and Gleek is running around their someplace.

I personally hope Kara will join the Legion. That was a big part of her story in the comics. They could still do that at the end of Supergirl but have one last mission in present day Earth Prime before she goes!

Best of both!
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Canadagraph has a blog up for episode 16.

https://canadagraphs.weebly.com/supergirl-blogs/supergirl-episode-6x16-melissa-benoist-chyler-leigh-katie-mcgrath-jesse-rath-on-set

The title of episode 16 is,"Nightmare In National City"



A great set of photos, thanks for sharing. BTS photos demonstrate how much effort and detail goes into creating just one scene: the rehearsals (in masks), the many takes (without masks), and the acting skill involved in reacting to an imaginary object or person in a convincing manner. I like the obvious enjoyment this cast has in working together, especially photos 35, 54-56, 64, 68, and 71. Also impressive athleticism shown by Melissa in 25, 30, and 31.
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