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I decided to start basically a Supergirl season 6 thread.I was already figuring we may get some news at DC's FanDome event next month but apparently there was a Virtual Wizard World Con in the past few days and several cast members were there.Apparently there was some season 6 news there.TheDCTVshow has a report on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_031LiXNw

The Major news points.

1)Jesse Rath revealed they plan to begin shooting September 28.

DCTVshow speculates that they might do what they did at the start of season 4 where other cast members like Jesse will begin shooting September 28 but Melissa might start a little later.

2)Helen Slater will be in a couple episodes in season 6.

The next bit I'll spoiler highlight since it could be considered a spoiler.

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From Jesse Rath:"The writers are working on,not a Legion story but what I think is the essence of what The Legion Of Superheroes is."

DCTVShow speculates he's not expecting Legion members appearing but more the idea of what The Legion is.A team of superheroes coming together.So really Team Supergirl really coming together as a team and becoming the basis of what The Legion becomes in the future.


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I think I found the actual panel video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzf8eZ6LmhY

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I think this theory may be flawed, but thought I'd share. Based on most recent information, the item that Kara needs is potentially tied to her Midvale past.

https://screenrant.com/supergirl-phantom-zone-world-killers-memory-escape-setup/
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New Jeremy Jordan interview about his new movie.He briefly talks about Supergirl's final season.

https://www.etonline.com/jeremy-jordan-talks-hallmark-playing-twins-and-supergirl-final-season-exclusive-160802

Switching gears to Supergirl. Since it is wrapping up, have you had conversations about possibly coming back one last time?

Yeah. You know, I'm certainly open to it. I haven't had any talks about it as of yet. I know it's a little bit difficult because they film in Canada and the travel situation there is a little bit involved, we'll say. But at the moment, no, I don't think Winn's returning for the final season. Although, if the opportunity arose, I'm sure I wouldn't hesitate to go out and hang out with my friends one last time.

What will you miss most about your time on that show?

I've been away for a couple of years now and just the people, honestly. I made some of my best friends on that show and I fell in love with the character of Winn. And it was something that I got to really create and stick with for the longest I've ever had to stick with one character. So, when I got to come back for season 5 for a few episodes, it was really lovely and really liberating. Unfortunately, I left the show because I wanted to come back home and start a family, which is what we did. And so, I don't regret it for a second but I do think back fondly and miss those guys a lot.


Unfortunately I'm not holding out much hope for a last guest appearance for this final season(although it's great he's open to it).The sucky situation is that the COVID-19 restrictions are preventing a lot of what many(not all ofcourse) want in a final season.I do think we may still get a Mon-El appearance since Chris is up in Vancouver with Melissa but returning faces may be very limited and tradtional crossovers are currently out this year due to the cross show restrictions.

We're still getting Diggle showing up on the various shows so that sort of takes the place of a crossover for this season(and it was announced last week that John Wesley Shipp is guest starring in episode 9 of the upcoming Stargirl season 2 as The Golden Age Flash giving us our first Stargirl/Arrowverse crossover of sorts).I certainly understand why the COVID-19 restrictions are in place and they are certainly warranted but I won't lie and say the idea of one last interaction between Kara & Barry and Kara & Clark or Kara meeting Ryan isn't disappointing for me in the final season of Supergirl since this could be our last chance at it.There is no guarantee Melissa will ever make a guest appearance anywhere in the Arrowverse post Supergirl.

After last night's Batwoman episode,I'm convinced this seasons aborted Batwoman/Superman & Lois crossover that probably would of featured Supergirl and The Flash popping in was going to center around the kryptonite bullet wound Ryan is suffering from that is looking way worse after last night's episode.

I keep going back to Arrow's final season and how they brought back so many returning faces(although no Manu Bennet except a archive appearance from season 2) and Smallville's final season before that did the same.I can't help feeling a little down that we probably won't get return appearances from Winn.James,Cat or Sam.I am greatful we are getting returns for Eliza and the young Kara & Alex though.

Superman & Lois showrunner has a new interview out that The DCTVshow talks about.In the interview Todd Helbing discusses a little about," what Superman & Lois is doing in relation to Supergirl."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOQtaJ1fdWw

"He wondered if he was pushing the new show too far away from the franchise especially Supergirl.After talking with the Supergirl showrunners,they released him of his fears." They pointed out that Supergirl has been on the air for years and,"Superman is off doing his own thing.It dosen't worry the Supergirl team."He can have his own adventures that can exists simultaneously."Basically The S & L team can do whatever they want.

The DCTVshow gives his opinion why this sort of annoys and worries him because the new show seems to be retconning so much established on Supergirl.Different actors as General Sam Lane and Morgan Edge(with maybe different backstories), big spoiler for S & L
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a different Lex Luthor
,Clark and Lois having two teenage sons instead of one infant(created by Crisis),different colored heat vision.You can see more of his opinion on why he feels this is the wrong move by the S & L creative team.

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Here's the S & L Interview part related to Supergirl.

https://ew.com/tv/superman-lois-premiere-preview/

Speaking of the rest of the Arrowverse, there was a moment during development when Helbing wondered if he was pushing Superman & Lois too far away from the franchise, especially Supergirl, which is ending later this year and has already mined a lot from the Superman mythos.

"Obviously working in this universe for as long as I did, I wanted to feel like we were a part of the whole, [but] we were making these choices that were very different than a lot of other shows," he says. "After I talked to [Supergirl showrunners] Robert Rovner and Jessica Queller, they sort of released me from my fears. They were like, 'Look, Todd, you're more worried about this than you should be because Supergirl has existed for [six seasons] and Superman is off doing his own thing. He's on his own adventures. It doesn't worry us that they can simultaneously exist at all.' That was quite a sigh of relief."

While there aren't any overt references to the rest of the Arrowverse in the series premiere, you can expect some in the rest of the season. "There's a nod that I don't think anybody has picked up yet in episode 2," Helbing teases. "As the season progresses, you're going to hear a little bit more about it. You know, we have John Diggle [David Ramsey] coming over. So it's certainly not like we're ignoring anything. We're just not playing it the same way as it's been played on the other shows."


New photo of Julie Gonzalo from the season 6 set

https://twitter.com/julie_gonzalo/status/1362930975974559745

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuoafnoUUAI5kOI?format=jpg
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While it would be nice and I’m glad Jeremy’s open to the idea I’m ok if he doesn’t make it to Vancouver. Winn’s story has a good ending, he has a full life in the future. James and Sam’s stories had good endings too.

The one character who I want to find about is Cat but Calista is also the least likely to want to travel. I’ve said it before let’s have a Kara/Cat zoom call. I believe that can be done without Calista leaving LA. Heck zoom calls with James and Sam would be a cool bonus.
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The CW just announced their spring schedule.

https://tvline.com/2021/02/24/cw-premiere-dates-2021-legends-of-tomorrow-dynasty-full-schedule/#comment-list-wrapper

Legends of Tomorrow is moving to Sundays' at 8pm and will premiere on SUNDAY, MAY 2 with Batwoman moving to 9pm.No Supergirl news but last night during the Superman & Lois premiere,a promo aired that announced Stargirl Season 2 for the summer.I'm thinking now that Supergirl will be paired with Stargirl in the summer.Frankly I love this idea if it pans out.I think Supergirl and Stargirl would be a perfect pairing.Plus,while we'll have to wait a little longer,it gives,atleast for me, something to look forward to in the summer.While all the other Arrowverse shows are on their summer breaks(except for Black Lightning which will be over),we'll have a full 20 episode season of Supergirl and a season of Stargirl waiting for us.

There are other possibilities as well.Supergirl could be paired with Legends after Batwoman wraps its season.But I think the CW's spring schedule confirms that Supergirl Season 6 will be a summer show.
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The CW just announced their spring schedule.

https://tvline.com/2021/02/24/cw-premiere-dates-2021-legends-of-tomorrow-dynasty-full-schedule/#comment-list-wrapper

Legends of Tomorrow is moving to Sundays' at 8pm and will premiere on SUNDAY, MAY 2 with Batwoman moving to 9pm.No Supergirl news but last night during the Superman & Lois premiere,a promo aired that announced Stargirl Season 2 for the summer.I'm thinking now that Supergirl will be paired with Stargirl in the summer.Frankly I love this idea if it pans out.I think Supergirl and Stargirl would be a perfect pairing.Plus,while we'll have to wait a little longer,it gives,atleast for me, something to look forward to in the summer.While all the other Arrowverse shows are on their summer breaks(except for Black Lightning which will be over),we'll have a full 20 episode season of Supergirl and a season of Stargirl waiting for us.

There are other possibilities as well.Supergirl could be paired with Legends after Batwoman wraps its season.But I think the CW's spring schedule confirms that Supergirl Season 6 will be a summer show.



I was just thinking this.

OR, they are holding it for the 2021-2022 season. It sounds odd, but that's what ended up happening with Brooklyn Nine-Nine, so it's not completely out of the questions.
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Great to hear. I had to go check out that video for myself.

This at least confirms that Melissa is willing to come back for guest spots. It's so much more reliable to hear it from someone like Bitsie quoting a text, than some random website. The quote even sounded like it wasn't specific to this season. Like she may be willing to return for future guest spots, or even crossovers.

As for the season...sad to say, but CW's Spring Line-Up announcement seemingly confirms that Supergirl is not coming until late June at the very earliest.

It might be time for us to take down the countdown clock, for the time being...
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https://tvline.com/2021/02/25/the-flash-season-7-spoilers-returning-villains/

Is there any chance that Grant Gustin will make an appearance in the final season of Supergirl? I’ve always loved Barry and Kara’s relationship, and it would be lovely to see them reunited again one last time. –Lauren

Well, I did ask Flash showrunner Eric Wallace if Kara might pay Central City a visit before her own series goes up, up and away, and he didn’t seem optimistic, at least from his end of things. “I wish, but… I don’t know,” he ventured with a heavy sigh. “I would say, ‘Ask the folks at Supergirl,’ not me, because that’s really out of my hands.” (As Batwoman boss Caroline Dries previously explained to TVLine, COVID concerns and enhanced safety protocols, coupled with Supergirl‘s later production start, make such crossovers difficult this season.)
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Yeah. Aside from an appearance from David Ramsey, I'm sadly expecting that we will not get any guest appearances from other heroes before the show ends. I seriously hate that the final season fell during COVID.

Arrow gets an entire crossover dedicated to his death, remakes the universe, and has the heroes from the other shows appear in the final episode.

Supergirl's final season has no guest heroes, no crossovers, and frankly, can't even get on the schedule. I've been saying this since Fandome, but Supergirl really does feel like an afterthought to to everyone at Warner, DC, and CW.

I'm happy that Superman & Lois was so well received for it's premiere, and I'm hooked and onboard. But it's bothersome to see so little attention being paid to our Girl of Steel.
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Yeah. Aside from an appearance from David Ramsey, I'm sadly expecting that we will not get any guest appearances from other heroes before the show ends. I seriously hate that the final season fell during COVID.

Arrow gets an entire crossover dedicated to his death, remakes the universe, and has the heroes from the other shows appear in the final episode.

Supergirl's final season has no guest heroes, no crossovers, and frankly, can't even get on the schedule. I've been saying this since Fandome, but Supergirl really does feel like an afterthought to to everyone at Warner, DC, and CW.

I'm happy that Superman & Lois was so well received for it's premiere, and I'm hooked and onboard. But it's bothersome to see so little attention being paid to our Girl of Steel.


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I feel as you do in this regard, but the show's exit is not due to the cast and crews or their dedication, but the PTB and their prior inability to handle it properly.

When the post mortem is finally done after the season airs and concludes, the cast and crews and some of the episodes will stand out fondly, but the miscues by the higher-ups will glaringly point to other factors at play. The pandemic didn't help, but it did provide a needed break for the creative process / writing to get some sort of footing after two-and-a-half seasons of very mediocre fare.

In retrospect, the minute it left CBS - after Tassler's departure/ouster - and went to the CW (who had originally passed on it) was when the decline started. What started out as a bona fide project and labour of love became bogged down in PC, excessive SJW themes and poor scripting. The saving grace was that we, as fans, got six seasons to enjoy some terrific performances by the actors who deserve(ed) better.

As for other shows getting big sendoffs and having more stature at the CW, WB and DC, that's the nature of the game. Arrow was practically unwatchable for almost three seasons (until the final swan song season) and the Flash is quickly losing steam due to excess longevity and creative fatigue. The newer shows will have long runs but will undoubtedly share the same fate.

Fret not though, Supergirl will continue in one iteration or another as evidenced by the announced appearance in the upcoming Flash movie and (likely) other projects down the road.
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In retrospect, the minute it left CBS - after Tassler's departure/ouster - and went to the CW (who had originally passed on it) was when the decline started. What started out as a bona fide project and labour of love became bogged down in PC, excessive SJW themes and poor scripting. The saving grace was that we, as fans, got six seasons to enjoy some terrific performances by the actors who deserve(ed) better.


Somehow Rom, I am apt to agree. The bold to me, is the two leading to the third with season 4 being the Jump the Shark season with their attack on talk radio and conservatives (doing the will of the Chinese Communist Party which owns Hollywood through big money operatives). Seasons 2 and 3 seemed to carry over some of the magic, but by 4 the show went into cancel culture mode.

Perhaps we the fans, some of us anyway, deserved a better fate than what we got.
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Here you go kdogg[attachment]E47E201F-9DCC-44B7-BF78-08786CE6A5F7.jpeg[/attachment]


Heck yeah!

I know Canadagraphs is a POS...but the dude gets shots.

Season 5 suit, season 1-4 hair. I will absolutely take that compromise.

Henseforth, season 5 shall be known as THE BANGS YEAR!
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Season 5 suit, season 1-4 hair. I will absolutely take that compromise.


My feelings exactly.While I prefer the season 1-4 hair,I thought the bangs were cute but I'm glad the season 1-4 hair is back for the final season.
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Season 5 suit, season 1-4 hair. I will absolutely take that compromise.

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:p Bangs year LOL. Personally as Kara and of course Melissa I thought the bangs were cute but on Supergirl not so much. IMO some of the hate on the pants suit was because the combined effect of the change in suit and hair was disconcerting. It wasn’t acceptable to hate on Melissa’s personal choice so it got directed at the suit.
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Season 5 suit, season 1-4 hair. I will absolutely take that compromise.

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:p Bangs year LOL. Personally as Kara and of course Melissa I thought the bangs were cute but on Supergirl not so much. IMO some of the hate on the pants suit was because the combined effect of the change in suit and hair was disconcerting. It wasn’t acceptable to hate on Melissa’s personal choice so it got directed at the suit.



You know what, I had the same thought. Melissa and Kara looked cute. The Supergirl hairdo in season 5 is what killed the aesthetic for me. And I do agree that changing both the suit and the hair at the same time turned people off. People hating on her, as a person, is not warranted.

I do still think they could have created a more aesthetically pleasing suit with pants. Overgirl's suit looked...amazing. But that's a personal preference.

Really looking forward to seeing what season 6 will bring.
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You know what, I had the same thought. Melissa and Kara looked cute. The Supergirl hairdo in season 5 is what killed the aesthetic for me. And I do agree that changing both the suit and the hair at the same time turned people off. People hating on her, as a person, is not warranted.

I do still think they could have created a more aesthetically pleasing suit with pants. Overgirl's suit looked...amazing. But that's a personal preference.

Really looking forward to seeing what season 6 will bring.

I think the fans were more POed with the pants replacing the skirt then her hairdo. I was wondering if the movie Supergirl wears a skirt or a pants thingy.

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The Fortress of Solitude seen on the second episode of Superman & Lois seems to have received a post-Crisis makeover. It's different from what we have seen on Supergirl. I wonder if Kara will visit it before the show exits?
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The Fortress of Solitude seen on the second episode of Superman & Lois seems to have received a post-Crisis makeover. It's different from what we have seen on Supergirl. I wonder if Kara will visit it before the show exits?


I'm relatively sure we've seen the Fortress on Supergirl, Post Crisis. I think they just wanted to give the Superman & Lois team cart blanche to adjust things as needed to fit their specific show. Crisis can explain away a lot of that, but not all of it.

We could, in theory, justify it as the Fortress being very large and having multiple chambers and areas.
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I'm relatively sure we've seen the Fortress on Supergirl, Post Crisis. I think they just wanted to give the Superman & Lois team cart blanche to adjust things as needed to fit their specific show. Crisis can explain away a lot of that, but not all of it.
I’m relatively sure we haven’t seen the Fortress post CoIE. We saw it in episodes seven and eight, CoIE was episode nine. I’m looking an my Blu-Ray here. Episode 10 was “The Bottle Episode” I don’t remember it in that one. Episodes 11 and 12 were the ones with Winn and I don’t recall the Fortress in those. Episode 13 was the 100th and I know the Fortress wasn’t in that one. Episode 14 was the “The Bodyguard” where Kara had to be Andrea’s bodyguard, no Fortress there. Episode was the Dreamer centric “Reality Bytes” episode 16 was “Alex in Wonderland” definitely no Fortress in either of those. I simply don’t recall the Fortress in the last three episodes. Arrowverse Wiki backs me up saying the Fortress last appeared in “The Rath of Rama Khan” which was S5E8.

It would be a waste of money to have different Fortress sets. Changing the existing one would’ve cost less than building a new one. TBH I’ll be kinda pissed if they went through the expense of building a new/changing the existing Fortress set and not letting Supergirl use it if necessary.
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I'm relatively sure we've seen the Fortress on Supergirl, Post Crisis. I think they just wanted to give the Superman & Lois team cart blanche to adjust things as needed to fit their specific show. Crisis can explain away a lot of that, but not all of it.
I’m relatively sure we haven’t seen the Fortress post CoIE. We saw it in episodes seven and eight, CoIE was episode nine. I’m looking an my Blu-Ray here. Episode 10 was “The Bottle Episode” I don’t remember it in that one. Episodes 11 and 12 were the ones with Winn and I don’t recall the Fortress in those. Episode 13 was the 100th and I know the Fortress wasn’t in that one. Episode 14 was the “The Bodyguard” where Kara had to be Andrea’s bodyguard, no Fortress there. Episode was the Dreamer centric “Reality Bytes” episode 16 was “Alex in Wonderland” definitely no Fortress in either of those. I simply don’t recall the Fortress in the last three episodes. Arrowverse Wiki backs me up saying the Fortress last appeared in “The Rath of Rama Khan” which was S5E8.

It would be a waste of money to have different Fortress sets. Changing the existing one would’ve cost less than building a new one. TBH I’ll be kinda pissed if they went through the expense of building a new/changing the existing Fortress set and not letting Supergirl use it if necessary.


Supergirl & Lena had a scene in the Fortress in episode 5x17, Deux Lex Machina. Just double checked.

Speaking realistically, they can't share a Fortress set. The Fortress set we are used to is on the Supergirl sound stage. Due to COVID restrictions, these actors aren't allowed to be working on each other's sets, this season.

Yes, both sets are supplemented by green screen and CGI backgrounds, but there is still a base set with practical pieces on the Supergirl set.
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The Fortress of Solitude seen on the second episode of Superman & Lois seems to have received a post-Crisis makeover. It's different from what we have seen on Supergirl. I wonder if Kara will visit it before the show exits?

The pod that brought Kal-El to Earth got a new post-Crisis look--and change in storage location. Never made a lot of sense keeping such advanced tech so open to the public. Almost begging for an evil mastermind or alien with a grudge to steal it.
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