Crisis On Earth X Part 1 Supergirl S3 Ep8 Discussion

The masked version of Over girl is most likely being portrayed by Melissa's new stunt double, Jennifer Clarke.

A disturbing rumour has surfaced that the absence of Kara in certain team shots is due to her being injured/captured early on and being out of action for a large part of the crossover.

If that is the case it will be disappointing to say the least, and that the CW reneged on their promise to involve Supergirl properly.

Some have proposed it is to free up MB for more Overgirl. If that be the case at least we get Kara action in one form or the other.

Above is just rumours and no guarantee. The only supporting evidence is team shots where Kara is missing and that picture of her in something like a hospital gown.

A disturbing rumour has surfaced that the absence of Kara in certain team shots is due to her being injured/captured early on and being out of action for a large part of the crossover.

If that is the case it will be disappointing to say the least, and that the CW reneged on their promise to involve Supergirl properly.

Some have proposed it is to free up MB for more Overgirl. If that be the case at least we get Kara action in one form or the other.

Above is just rumours and no guarantee. The only supporting evidence is team shots where Kara is missing and that picture of her in something like a hospital gown.

Couple things I was thinking about earlier today. My initial question when I saw the pictures yesterday was..why is Kara in hospital scrubs... Injured? But, on my larger computer screen ... looks more like a button up shirt, NOT scrubs.

Then I thought was she captured because she's not in the outside group shot. But, then the extended trailer came out, and Supergirl is fighting Overgirl in the sky. So, perhaps the others were on the ground watching and explains why Supergirl's not in the photos.

But, maybe Overgirl has a larger part than the other villians--requiring Supergirl needing to be sidelined for Melissa. The villians do have some doomsday device. Maybe they've captured Supergirl for that? We shall see. Muah ha ha ha getting more stoked for the crossover every day.

A disturbing rumour has surfaced that the absence of Kara in certain team shots is due to her being injured/captured early on and being out of action for a large part of the crossover.

If that is the case it will be disappointing to say the least, and that the CW reneged on their promise to involve Supergirl properly.

Some have proposed it is to free up MB for more Overgirl. If that be the case at least we get Kara action in one form or the other.

Above is just rumours and no guarantee. The only supporting evidence is team shots where Kara is missing and that picture of her in something like a hospital gown.

@Fedguy you and @Vantheman77 seem to be the ones starting this “rumor” if not like a good reporter sight your source.

Oy Vey people I know there was justifiable disappointment in how Supergirl was used in last years crossovers but we know some of the causes. For what seems like the thousandth time.
1) The planning probably started months before Supergirl was renewed for a second season let alone moved networks and filming locations. Supergirl wasn’t originally going to be involved at all.
2) The longer production time for Supergirl compared to the other shows plus the later start on filming season 2 meant there wasn’t shutdown time to allow Melissa to be in two places. I recall David saying she was “shattered”.

These issues don’t apply to this year.
1) Early renewal, at the same time as the other three shows allowed planning to start nine months before filming.
2)Earlier start to filming season three allowd for “dead days” so Melissa, Chyler, and it looks like Jeremy were able to do the work in a more manageable way.

It makes total sense to me that the villains would want to divide the heroes and focus on neutralizing thier most powerful asset, that would be Kara. It also makes sense that the villains strongest asset Overgirl is a leader on that team. Add to this Melissa is the strongest lead acting wise in the Arrowverse so she could be counted on to really bring the evil as Overgirl and I’m not surprised at all that she seems to spend lots of time in a black costume.

Start thinking in terms of Kara/Supergirl plus Overgirl screen time. Plus it looks like Alex plays a big part and while I am disappointed that it appears Winn and Cisco don’t interact we do get an alternate Winn.

It makes total sense to me that the villains would want to divide the heroes and focus on neutralizing thier most powerful asset, that would be Kara. It also makes sense that the villains strongest asset Overgirl is a leader on that team. Add to this Melissa is the strongest lead acting wise in the Arrowverse so she could be counted on to really bring the evil as Overgirl and I’m not surprised at all that she seems to spend lots of time in a black costume.

Makes a lot of sense. That will give the heroes a problem, and not rely too much on Supergirl.

Supergirl-the-character-only fans (and not-really-Melissa-Benoist fans) will be the ones most likely disappointed. (I'm both Supergirl and a Melissa Benoist fan, so it's not looking bad...for me).

Then I thought was she captured because she's not in the outside group shot. But, then the extended trailer came out, and Supergirl is fighting Overgirl in the sky. So, perhaps the others were on the ground watching and explains why Supergirl's not in the photos.

It's just on the editing - when Joe West looks up in the sky to watch the spectacle of Supergirl vs. Overgirl, it looks like he's still wearing the same suit at Barry's wedding. So I bet that outdoor scene is at the thick of the church attack. That scene is in the Supergirl episode, therefore in the early part of the crossover and so much would still happen afterwards.

My bet on the outside group (all abreast) shot, is that is in the Arrow part of the Crossover. Unless the Arrow regulars Rick Gonzales, Echo Kellum, and Juliana Harkavey signed a special contract to appear on all Arrowverse shows, they're limited to appear on Arrow only. Just like last year's crossover - Echo and Rick (with the actor who played Ragman) only appeared on Arrow. Nick Zano and Maisie Sellers only showed up for the first time on the Legends of Tomorrow part. If most of the actors signed on to appear on all shows for the crossover this time, then that's great (then my guess on the group shot will be wrong).

I kind find the look on Joe's face funny as he looked up the sky - it looked like he was going to cry. But I don't remember him meeting Supergirl at all, so that will come as a huge shock.

Plus it looks like Alex plays a big part and while I am disappointed that it appears Winn and Cisco don’t interact we do get an alternate Winn.

I took a screenshot of Alex meeting Winn's doppelganger. I wonder how Alex would feel seeing Winn there (if she hasn't been warned about doppelgangers).

Woah accusations thrown around. Chill, this isn’t my research assignments so apologies if posts are made sans reference list. I saw it being discussed on Youtube comments and FB and thought to mention it here. Personally it hasn’t occured to me prior. We’re just talking about fun stuff here after all, no one’s trying anything.

Woah accusations thrown around. Chill, this isn’t my research assignments so apologies if posts are made sans reference list. I saw it being discussed on Youtube comments and FB and thought to mention it here. Personally it hasn’t occured to me prior. We’re just talking about fun stuff here after all, no one’s trying anything.

All is good @Fedguy just be aware that repeating what you here of FB and YouTube is how nasty rumors and untrue things get spread. Think about what you were trying to accomplish. We’re you simply trying to stir the pot regarding people’s problems with last years crossovers? Think about the response your looking for before you post.

Fun times.

I do hope it isn't true. But either way this event should be lit. As I said before, no one is trying anything. Found a worrying theory, saw that it might have merit, put it here to see what everyone else thinks.

Fun times.

I do hope it isn't true. But either way this event should be lit. As I said before, no one is trying anything. Found a worrying theory, saw that it might have merit, put it here to see what everyone else thinks.

Interesting thing maybe about Overgirl and nazi oliver?
Apparently a twitter user saw Stephen Amell playing 'two truths and a lie' at a convention when asked about the crossover , saying that Oliver would kiss 1) Kara, 2) Felicity, or 3) Diggle and then said "he would kiss someone who...isnt here" and you can see both Diggle and Felicity's actors on the stage.
https://twitter.com/SilverIce01/status/932301671669125120

edit: video of the part in the panel: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/932300072619880448/pu/vid/640x360/f7jsAx82B0YfXw6h.mp4

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It is possible and it will feel very twisted when that will be revealed in the crossover. I wonder if the real Kara will pull a disgusted face like what she did after finding Winn and Shioban Smythe come out of the storage room...

Interesting thing maybe about Overgirl and nazi oliver?
Apparently a twitter user saw Stephen Amell playing 'two truths and a lie' at a convention when asked about the crossover , saying that Oliver would kiss 1) Kara, 2) Felicity, or 3) Diggle and then said "he would kiss someone who...isnt here" and you can see both Diggle and Felicity's actors on the stage.
https://twitter.com/SilverIce01/status/932301671669125120

edit: video of the part in the panel: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/932300072619880448/pu/vid/640x360/f7jsAx82B0YfXw6h.mp4

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I took a screenshot of Alex meeting Winn's doppelganger. I wonder how Alex would feel seeing Winn there (if she hasn't been warned about doppelgangers).

Winn/Jeremy carries the scruffy look really well. He should make it a permanent feature .

I know triggy will appreciate this video

Evil Winn is pretty cool. Unintentional throwback to first crossover when Barry told Kara and Winn there might be universe where they're all evil

I do, and thank you!

I know triggy will appreciate this video

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

So in your opinion if Melissa doesn’t spend “enough” time in the blue suit the crossovers are like last year? You’re not going to be happy if Overgirl is the leader of the villains? Are you counting time as Kara? Why do screentime for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate? The two characters took the same amount of Melissa’s time. Are you also saying Green/Black Arrow are separate? For me the only separate hero/villain combo will be Flash/Reverse Flash because they’re not played by the same actor.

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

So in your opinion if Melissa doesn’t spend “enough” time in the blue suit the crossovers are like last year? You’re not going to be happy if Overgirl is the leader of the villains? Are you counting time as Kara? Why do screentime for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate? The two characters took the same amount of Melissa’s time. Are you also saying Green/Black Arrow are separate? For me the only separate hero/villain combo will be Flash/Reverse Flash because they’re not played by the same actor.

I’m impartial to the dispute about Kara screentime etc as no matter how it turns out I’m largely satisfied, but why so aggressive? Sounds like you’re interrogating him, what did he say that was so wrong?

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

So in your opinion if Melissa doesn’t spend “enough” time in the blue suit the crossovers are like last year? You’re not going to be happy if Overgirl is the leader of the villains? Are you counting time as Kara? Why do screentime for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate? The two characters took the same amount of Melissa’s time. Are you also saying Green/Black Arrow are separate? For me the only separate hero/villain combo will be Flash/Reverse Flash because they’re not played by the same actor.

I’m impartial to the dispute about Kara screentime etc as no matter how it turns out I’m largely satisfied, but why so aggressive? Sounds like you’re interrogating him, what did he say that was so wrong?

I second this notion, I think we can agree to disagree, shake hands and move on. I mean the new extended trailer has me more excited than Justice League and that is saying something!

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

So in your opinion if Melissa doesn’t spend “enough” time in the blue suit the crossovers are like last year? You’re not going to be happy if Overgirl is the leader of the villains? Are you counting time as Kara? Why do screentime for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate? The two characters took the same amount of Melissa’s time. Are you also saying Green/Black Arrow are separate? For me the only separate hero/villain combo will be Flash/Reverse Flash because they’re not played by the same actor.

I’m impartial to the dispute about Kara screentime etc as no matter how it turns out I’m largely satisfied, but why so aggressive? Sounds like you’re interrogating him, what did he say that was so wrong?

I second this notion, I think we can agree to disagree, shake hands and move on. I mean the new extended trailer has me more excited than Justice League and that is saying something!

Agreed and I apologize, it was not my intention to interrogate anyone. Thank you for the reminder that the intent of written words can easily be misinterpreted.

It wasn't really a rumor, but speculation. If Kara being captured for the large part of the crossover ends up being true to make way for Overgirl, then they have not resolved this problem from last year's crossover.

Supergirl and Overgirl may be identical to each other, but they're separate entities. That's replacing one character for another.

Someone else came up with a possibility that the heroes captured Overgirl and that Supergirl and several other heroes may take her place to infiltrate and discover Earth-X Thawne's plans.

Screentimes for Supergirl and Overgirl have to be separate.

Not really a rumor now that the trailer outright shows Kara being taken away and Overgirl capturing Kara.