Andrew Kreisberg -

Sexual Harassment is disgusting in all forms and should be dealt with zero tolerance. I am saddened to see people who work on something I enjoy have had to endure this behavior. Thankfully due to some very courageous voices it has come to light and is being dealt with. Regardless of how tempting it may be to pass around some blame; 100% of the blame goes to the creep doing this ****.

We need to all stand in solidarity with the victims so that they know they are heard, understood and supported. For those that would try and bring ship wars, character/story complaints into it; I ask you to politely STOP! Please do not hijack the stories of the brave men and women who have come forward under difficult circumstances.

The writer of the original article has been online, and divulged that the complaints all came from low-level former hires, which means they had no job security to begin with. It's starting to look more and more like an opportunistic smear campaign designed to shake up things at WB-TV and Berlanti Productions, just as they're ramping up promotions for the big CW crossover event. Naturally, it's likely going to take awhile before any full details come to light on the matter.

So, because they weren't major actors/actresses or high up on the food chain, their accounts are automatically dismissed as part of a smear campaign? Victims being in some type of position of inferiority or dependence is exactly what sexual harassers count on. It's also exactly why the victim's stories go untold for years.

I don't know all the details with Kreisberg but, if there are multiple witnesses to any inappropriate behavior, that should be a huge red flag to the CW, WB, Berlanti and everyone else.

Totally agree, Sully...

Here's a more recent article from Bleeding Cool, one that actually details the allegations. (And as the author says "it's not pretty". ) Turns out that there are both former and current staffers making these statements:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/11/11/dctv-producer-suspended-amid-allegations-of-sexual-assault/

The online outrage about this is a joke.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying the accusations are a joke. They aren't. If Kreisberg's guilty (and with 19 accusations that corroborate each other, it seems like he is), then he should be fired.

What I mean is that, on all of the online rage is falling on Supergirl's twitter and Instagram accounts, and not on The Flash's, or any other of the shows.

I get it's because Supergirl is supposed to be the "female empowerment" show, so Kreisberg's actions fly in the face of that. But Kreisberg isn't the only one contributing to this show. So I don't get how you can boycott one show and not the other, regarding the Kreisberg issue. Besides, Flash is far and away the bigger ticket for Kreisberg, as it's consistently the highest rated show on CW.

I'm not boycotting either one. I love them both and want them to have long runs. I can just understand where others are coming from, even if I don't necessarily agree. I merely want Kreisberg replaced so we can move beyond this issue and continue to have a good run on this series.

But the thing that REALLY bothers me is people bundling the #FireKreisberg hashtag in the same posts as #SanversMatters or #BringMaggieBack hashtags.

They are literally equating their issues with a fictional gay couple to that of an EP with years of alleged sexual harassment. That is appalling to me, at the very core of my being. Forgetting, for a moment, that it was Floriana's choice to leave the show, so that isn't really the writer's fault...People thinking there problems with a fictional relationship is as important as real life sexual harassment....I can't wrap my head around it. It's mind boggling.

I've beaten the #Sanvers issue to death. I'm not LGBT, and it's impossible for me to know what it's like to be LGBT. I know that. But I support that community, and understand that representation matters. But at the end of the day, these are fictional characters. When in real life, it's possible that 19 real, living people were harassed and demeaned by this man. People bringing up Sanvers in the face of the Kreisberg revelations is maddening.

I apologize for the rant, guys. I just can't stand people hijacking an issue as serious as sexual harassment to voice their shipping outrage.

I will continue to watch these shows, especially Supergirl. But Kreisberg should get what is coming to him.

I hope that this incident will not affect the shows in a bad way. Like delay or at worst cancel at least for an extended time because that would be horrible and they haven`t even released if it would affect the shows yet. I honestly thought that Andrew was a good guy and he seemed nice on the screen, but I guess you never see past the mask.

It's not going to get delayed or canceled....everyone needs to take a chill pill.

The writer of the original article has been online, and divulged that the complaints all came from low-level former hires, which means they had no job security to begin with. It's starting to look more and more like an opportunistic smear campaign designed to shake up things at WB-TV and Berlanti Productions, just as they're ramping up promotions for the big CW crossover event. Naturally, it's likely going to take awhile before any full details come to light on the matter.

So, because they weren't major actors/actresses or high up on the food chain, their accounts are automatically dismissed as part of a smear campaign? Victims being in some type of position of inferiority or dependence is exactly what sexual harassers count on. It's also exactly why the victim's stories go untold for years.

I don't know all the details with Kreisberg but, if there are multiple witnesses to any inappropriate behavior, that should be a huge red flag to the CW, WB, Berlanti and everyone else.

What a terrible development for DC shows on the CW.. . My feeling about it is that "where there's smoke, there's usually fire". Variety says that 15 women and 4 men are basically telling the same stories about Kreisberg. I'd be be interested to find out they know each other. (Variety's article doesn't say.) When you have 19 people who don't even know each other all telling similar stories about the same guy.....

From what I've read, the nail in the coffin for AK is that these stories are meshing, they are not countering each other, they are actually putting the puzzle together. Also, apparently the 4 men involved are backing up the stories of the 15 women, as to what has been seen. I say, keep cleaning house, it is tough, it is messy, but it needs to be done. What is ridiculously stupid are those theorizing that the demise of #Sanvers and #Supercorp not coming to pass has anything to do with this....AND, there are those that are slamming Chris Wood because he didn't say or do anything about it. These people are delusional.

I also saw a bunch of Karamels laughing about how now they know how Katie became a regular because she slept her way to the top with Kreisberg. These people are sick and this issue is so much bigger than the show. It should be about the survivors and their bravery and strength.

Short note on DC's Eddie Berganza situation...that's a story that's been going around on comics message boards for several years now. If the company is finally taking action with him, then perhaps there's been enough accumulated accounts by credible witnesses to the incidents.

Either delay or cancel, both will be far too extreme, - that won't happen. At best or worst (depending on how one would feel about this issue) Kreisberg will leave Berlanti Productions and someone else will take over his job. Or with a different result, WB would conclude that he is innocent and he goes back to work. If the latter happens, he would have been not involved with Executive Producing for some time and the shows could have changed in ways would not have originally imagined. He could easily just think of ways to steer the shows where he wants them to go afterwards.

Everyone has his/her own dark secrets, I guess. Innocent until proven guilty for AK. As for the accusers - empathy will come when the allegations are proven to be true.

I hope that this incident will not affect the shows in a bad way. Like delay or at worst cancel at least for an extended time because that would be horrible and they haven`t even released if it would affect the shows yet. I honestly thought that Andrew was a good guy and he seemed nice on the screen, but I guess you never see past the mask.

The writer of the original article has been online, and divulged that the complaints all came from low-level former hires, which means they had no job security to begin with. It's starting to look more and more like an opportunistic smear campaign designed to shake up things at WB-TV and Berlanti Productions, just as they're ramping up promotions for the big CW crossover event. Naturally, it's likely going to take awhile before any full details come to light on the matter.

I hope that this incident will not affect the shows in a bad way. Like delay or at worst cancel at least for an extended time because that would be horrible and they haven`t even released if it would affect the shows yet. I honestly thought that Andrew was a good guy and he seemed nice on the screen, but I guess you never see past the mask.

I doubt it will have any visible impact to viewers. Jessica Q and Robert R are the Supergirl showrunners.. The other shows also have different showrunners. Shows get more affected when a major actor i.e. someone you see on screen in every episode faces such an accusation.

I hope that this incident will not affect the shows in a bad way. Like delay or at worst cancel at least for an extended time because that would be horrible and they haven`t even released if it would affect the shows yet. I honestly thought that Andrew was a good guy and he seemed nice on the screen, but I guess you never see past the mask.

Growing up in the Entertainment Industry, this unfortunately does not surprise me. I am, however, disgusted at the extent of the sexual harassment or aggression. I think this is only the tip of the iceberg and it will hit across a number of industries and politics.

The position of EP is an overarching one and it may have some brief impact. Remember though, Greg Berlanti runs the show with his partners and you can be certain that they will have a strong DC knowledge base available to them. I also believe they will find a suitable replacement who can provide valuable suggestions.

Otherwise. We are going to continue hearing more slime coming out of Hollywood and other industries.

Argo

This certainly sounds bad. Although there is always the presumption of innocence, private companies do not require the same burden of proof as the judicial system. There is an awful lot of smoke in the air, and apparently has been for a long time. The fall of a public figure is never a pretty thing to watch, but one's first concern has got to be for the victims, then for others affected by the fallout (associates, family, friends). It is profoundly sad and totally disgusting at the same time.

As far as the effect on the show, I'd say it will be negligible. No one is indispensable, and I feel there are plenty of talented people ready to take the reins. If my experience in business is any guide, they are probably already largely responsible for the show's success. I think Supergirl will be fine.

Rovner and Queller both credit AK for the crazy creative ideas that we've seen in Supergirl so far (i.e., the broken in half C-130 cargo plane from last week's episode), with AK "disabled" I hope they get help from who are just as creative as AK, or they are really that good only that AK gets most of the credit. The good thing is, we have dual EP's/showrunners left on Supergirl - The Flash has Helbing left.

If AK gets terminated after the internal investigation concludes, I hope whoever replaces him would be better. I believe there's always someone better, only that we've been so used to have AK guiding Supergirl and all the other shows. This could mean a new direction for Supergirl, one can only hope that it's for the better.

And also more important, here's hoping no one other than AK will have any harassment allegations (bogus or not) within Berlanti after this.

But with regards to the show. The EP don't necessarily have to be directly involved in the show. The show runners are the true vision for the show, but in this case, AK served as both. Seems to me that Rovner and Queller are doing a good job so far, so leave them be.

In my opinion, the very best thing that Berlanti could do, as far as Supergirl is concerned is bring back Ali Adler, that I think would calm much of this down for Supergirl. She seemed far more hands on with the production and I think could bring some stability. Not necessarily to take over from Queller and Rovner, but be an overall driving force.

What a terrible development for DC shows on the CW.. . My feeling about it is that "where there's smoke, there's usually fire". Variety says that 15 women and 4 men are basically telling the same stories about Kreisberg. I'd be be interested to find out they know each other. (Variety's article doesn't say.) When you have 19 people who don't even know each other all telling similar stories about the same guy.....

Yeah, I'm over the whole benefit of the doubt thing. When I was first made aware of the article, I breezed through it in shock, and wanted to curb my instincts to judge without a trial, but 19 accounts. Hmm.

After reading the Variety article thoroughly, his tone deaf responses are truly horrible. I feel terrible for all those who worked under such a degrading environment and if he is found guilty, I'm sure justice will be served.

It's really courageous for the victims to come forward. The Hollywood environment needs to be cleaned up, and hopefully, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Reading Ellen Page's FB account. It's heartbreaking.

There has always been such a huge imbalance in the percentage of M/F Producers, EP's and Especially Directors. I have wished for years that Women who wanted to direct were given the equal opportunity to direct. This has always annoyed me as having a creative vision isn't a gender talent. Surely Patty Jenkins has proved that without a doubt.

Not to sound overly feministic, but more women in executive and directorial positions would be an improvement. At least one would think, I'm not saying the reverse does not happen.

But with regards to the show. The EP don't necessarily have to be directly involved in the show. The show runners are the true vision for the show, but in this case, AK served as both. Seems to me that Rovner and Queller are doing a good job so far, so leave them be.

Well guess what folks, Breitbart has written about this, citing the Variety article.

And there is more trouble possible at DC Comics. From the last paragraph of the article...

On Friday, the editor of DC Comics Eddie Berganza was also suspended over allegations of sexual assault, while dozens of major figures across the industry have been accused of sexual impropriety.

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What a terrible development for DC shows on the CW.. . My feeling about it is that "where there's smoke, there's usually fire". Variety says that 15 women and 4 men are basically telling the same stories about Kreisberg. I'd be be interested to find out they know each other. (Variety's article doesn't say.) When you have 19 people who don't even know each other all telling similar stories about the same guy.....

Not to get into the issue itself too much but, hopefully everyone understands that sexual harassment is not just an entertainment or political problem. Its occurrence has been thoroughly bred into our culture: the entertainment and political world just happen to have large enough platforms to highlight the problem.

THIS THIS THIS.
Sexual harassment is everywhere and has been brushed under the rug for was too long.

If don't you think that if AK was really engaged in this kind of abuse that high ranking producres like Berlanti and Sarah S would know about? Didn't the Variety article say that some complained to Berlanti's production company about AK and nothing was done?

That the alleged victims won't revel themselves to the public out of fear of Warner Bros punishing them?
This scandal could lead SJWs calling for a boycott of all the shows and could cause the ratings to go down even more