Reign - Villain

The ending of Episode 10 had me pondering a question, what is Reign's status as main villain for the rest of Season 3?. With other Worldkillers coming does Reign just become part of the group and there's actually a Bigger Bad out there that we haven't seen as yet?. With development of the Samantha to Reign story-line this season I would assume her to be the season long villain but now I'm not so sure.

How do others see this playing out in regards to Reign's future role?.

I think Reign will still be the leader; and this reveal just gives Team Good some breathing space while Reign goes in search of her fellows; it'd probably also would lead to a spectacular finale and may be getting another Superman cameo.

The ending of Episode 10 had me pondering a question, what is Reign's status as main villain for the rest of Season 3?. With other Worldkillers coming does Reign just become part of the group and there's actually a Bigger Bad out there that we haven't seen as yet?. With development of the Samantha to Reign story-line this season I would assume her to be the season long villain but now I'm not so sure.

How do others see this playing out in regards to Reign's future role?.

Interested in seeing how Reign will react to Ruby. Afterall, isn't Reign meant to only destroy evil? Being Ruby isn't evil, and part of Sam/herself...should prove to be an interesting "response." Will motherhood "short circuit" Reign a tad? Will Reign see her as an "abhorrance," the reason for her delay?

I'm a firm believer that Sam's story will be a tragic one. The exec producers have not hidden that. It's been touted from the beginning. Somehow, Reign and Sam will be written out. Whether they are killed, destroyed, exiled to the Phantom Zone...whether Sam sacrifices her self to take Reign with her.

This Reign is very different from the comics. She's essentially Kara's version of Doomsday. In the comics she didn't have a civilian alter ego. She was just one being, Reign. And the purpose behind her creation, as well as exactly who created her, aside from her origin being Kryptonian, is unknown. She also doesn't have the basic Kryptonian power set like she does in the show.

We know her origin and purpose, at least partially, in the show. She was created by a sect of Kryptonians who worshiped their old gods. As for purpose, she believes herself to be some sort of dark, divine justice.

As of yet, Reign has yet to hurt somebody completely "innocent", aside from Kara, who straight up challenged her. But I can see her vision of justice being warped or manipulated to do the bidding of other entities, whether it be her creators, or even Edge. I'm just curious what her, or her creators', long term goal is. It's got to be more than "Reign punishes evil doers".

I'd like something to happen to Reign similar to what happened to Killer Frost last season. Caitlyn can pretty much change KF at will and is aware of what she is...maybe that can happen for Sam too.

I agree.... But watch out, we may be struck down by the Supercorp god....LOL
Like

The more I think about it, the more conflicted I have become on Sam/Reign. I like Sam as a character and I think that she could be an asset to Kara as a friend, really much better than Lena (did I say that out loud ).

BUT, gosh I really would like for her to stay Reign, long-term, and be a threat past this season. They have done such a good job showing her to be a formidable opponent, that I hate to see her being redeemed, even at the end of the season.

Odette is a wonderful actress and it would be a shame to lose her after this season.

I'd like something to happen to Reign similar to what happened to Killer Frost last season. Caitlyn can pretty much change KF at will and is aware of what she is...maybe that can happen for Sam too. But she realizes that there is probably no coming back from her crime, and choses the phantom zone rather then put her daughter in danger from Reign. ('Killer' Frost killed no one, and Reign has killed 12 people so far)

As much as I like Sam, not keeping Reign as a villain that can be used in other seasons pretty much disrespects the villain of Reign in the comics.

The more I think about it, the more conflicted I have become on Sam/Reign. I like Sam as a character and I think that she could be an asset to Kara as a friend, really much better than Lena (did I say that out loud ).

BUT, gosh I really would like for her to stay Reign, long-term, and be a threat past this season. They have done such a good job showing her to be a formidable opponent, that I hate to see her being redeemed, even at the end of the season.

Odette is a wonderful actress and it would be a shame to lose her after this season.

I'd like something to happen to Reign similar to what happened to Killer Frost last season. Caitlyn can pretty much change KF at will and is aware of what she is...maybe that can happen for Sam too. But she realizes that there is probably no coming back from her crime, and choses the phantom zone rather then put her daughter in danger from Reign. ('Killer' Frost killed no one, and Reign has killed 12 people so far)

The more I think about it, the more conflicted I have become on Sam/Reign. I like Sam as a character and I think that she could be an asset to Kara as a friend, really much better than Lena (did I say that out loud ).

BUT, gosh I really would like for her to stay Reign, long-term, and be a threat past this season. They have done such a good job showing her to be a formidable opponent, that I hate to see her being redeemed, even at the end of the season.

Odette is a wonderful actress and it would be a shame to lose her after this season.

The more I think about it, the more conflicted I have become on Sam/Reign. I like Sam as a character and I think that she could be an asset to Kara as a friend, really much better than Lena (did I say that out loud ).

BUT, gosh I really would like for her to stay Reign, long-term, and be a threat past this season. They have done such a good job showing her to be a formidable opponent, that I hate to see her being redeemed, even at the end of the season.

Odette is a wonderful actress and it would be a shame to lose her after this season.

As others have said, I could see that happening too, and that could be a reason for Reign to be 'out of the picture' even for a while if Sam manages to get herself in containment before her next relapse.

Also someone said there hasn't been sympathetic villains on the arrow verse before? Or did they mean lead villains?

I think Mick Rory and Leonard Snart were pretty sympathetic and both managed to get redeemed. Hell, Mick has had the most development of any former villain in the arrow verse as a result of being a lead on legends for three seasons. This season alone we've had episodes on Legends like the one where Mick met his dad where it was just a tour de force of perfect acting and emotion

I think there will be a point where Sam figures out she’s the one who almost killed Supergirl and is causing all the destruction. I think it will happen before anyone else figures it out. For a time she’ll try to handle it on her own but eventually she’ll send Ruby away and go to her friends Kara and Lena for help. Remember in S3E5 Kara told Sam as a reporter she has a contact in government agency. Kara will convince Sam to let the DEO help her and Sam will go willingly. Sam will spend a few episodes in containment while the team including Lena tries to help her. Then Reign will break out of the DEO and Sam will be gone. The team will make one last effort by using Ruby but it won’t work. In the end everyone is heartbroken but realizes Reign must be stopped.

I'm not sure how Reign's identity will be revealed. But I think it will be easy for Kara, and whoever else finds out, to see that Reign and Sam are as different as night and day.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they found out because Ruby steps in the way of Reign trying to kill Ruby's hero, Supergirl. This may cause Sam to rise to the surface, even if it's just temporarily.

...I'm more interested to see how the individual characters react, and decide to proceed, once Reign's identity is revealed....I think we can clearly expect Lena to be sympathetic to her friend. Kara...I'm honestly not sure. She became tight with Sam, really quick, but she's also been on the receiving end of Reign's brutality...and that can give her a different perspective than the sympathetic one she may normally have. I think one or more DEO team members will want to just take Sam down. Probably J'onn, due to his experience and trauma from White Martians. Alex is another one I'm torn on. I feel like, normally, she'd want to go for the kill. But knowing Sam, and especially with the bond she's formed with Ruby...I just don't know.