Andrew Kreisberg -

One the of the teachers at the high school I graduated from only 2 years ago was busted as a pedophile lately. Read it on the local news. He and I only had a few interactions so wasn’t really impacting to me personally but the news made me reinterpret every time he touched a student. A lot of the people I know were pretty shocked, some had been close to him during younger years. I always thought there was something fishy with the school but not that guy.

Relating back to Kresiberg I guess you never really know who people are and what they do. I can only hope for as awareness increases less people in public industries will have indecent tendencies, and those who do seek help before they act on it.

What a terrible development for DC shows on the CW.. . My feeling about it is that "where there's smoke, there's usually fire". Variety says that 15 women and 4 men are basically telling the same stories about Kreisberg. I'd be be interested to find out they know each other. (Variety's article doesn't say.) When you have 19 people who don't even know each other all telling similar stories about the same guy.....

From what I've read, the nail in the coffin for AK is that these stories are meshing, they are not countering each other, they are actually putting the puzzle together. Also, apparently the 4 men involved are backing up the stories of the 15 women, as to what has been seen. I say, keep cleaning house, it is tough, it is messy, but it needs to be done. What is ridiculously stupid are those theorizing that the demise of #Sanvers and #Supercorp not coming to pass has anything to do with this....AND, there are those that are slamming Chris Wood because he didn't say or do anything about it. These people are delusional.

I also saw a bunch of Karamels laughing about how now they know how Katie became a regular because she slept her way to the top with Kreisberg. These people are sick and this issue is so much bigger than the show. It should be about the survivors and their bravery and strength.

Oh look, the topic returns to be about these two ships again. From what I’ve seen so far I would gladly see Karamel and Supercorp both gone for good. Who devotes their time to obsessing over a particular pairing in a show? And then going to such lengths and making all this fuss and conflict over it?

as much as this disgusts me i hope that this does not affect the shows, like delaying them, making the less quality, bad plot points, or worst of all have them cancelled.

Don't worry too much. AK is only one man and Berlanti Productions is much larger than him. Although he's Greg's top creative guy for the DCTV shows, there are the other hundreds who work to produce and deliver the shows as scheduled every week. AK is just like a captain of a ship, and every captain has a chief mate who is as competent, and then the crew. They cannot just cancel everything because of AK. AK is not the be-all end-all of DCTV. There will be always someone better - all they have to do is look for the right person. People within WB/DC Entertainment like Geoff Johns probably already know a few.

as much as this disgusts me i hope that this does not affect the shows, like delaying them, making the less quality, bad plot points, or worst of all have them cancelled.

as much as this disgusts me i hope that this does not affect the shows, like delaying them, making the less quality, bad plot points, or worst of all have them cancelled.

None of that is going to happen, this season is already planned out, most scripts written or in the process, the one that he would have most definitely been a part of the crossover is already in the can, the funding for the season is already there......all they need to do is keep the team they have in place and replace him....which they will do and they will move on from this.

You will begin to see AK's name taken off of this or that, and the Arrowverse will continue on.

words from Melissa Benoist on the subject

and an IG post from Chyler

the ladies leading by example

Emily Bett Rickards also said her piece, interestingly mentioning "reverse sexism" that to me is counter to Marc G's tweet today.

I think the stars are drawing the line and putting out the message that they won't be intimidated by threat of reprisals from the executives.

Writing out a character is a form of reprisal in that business, a known fact.

words from Melissa Benoist on the subject

and an IG post from Chyler

the ladies leading by example

We have remained uncharacteristically quiet about this topic since it launched on Friday evening. Kelsey and I have been in a state of shock. We took the weekend to discuss how we were feeling and what was our position. In the end, Kelsey couldn't have done a better job. I defer to her point of view as a woman, as a person of mixed race, and as a person who experienced sexual harassment several times in her life as well. Her thoughts on the topic and the official point of view of this site can be found on the news section.

A point should be raised that while he is being investigated we should not act like he is already guilty

Sexual harrassment, any sort of harrassment really, would be very difficult to prove. It'd be basically, from a legal point of view, taking one person's words over another. And, when it comes to that, people would mostly side with the people in power. Probably not because of malice, but because it is the easier way.

That is also one of the many reasons why people don't come forward.

Another reason is that people don't automatically identify harrassment as such. Take sexist jokes for example. Many people feel uncomfortable about it. But, if you speak out, in my experience, you are the one who can't take a joke. The person who is weak. Or, the one who doesn't have a sense of humour.

It's bad enough to be harrassed. Why would you want to be a social pariah as well? Better to ignore and move on. Or grit your teeth and stay until you have got some experience and made some money, and then, move on.

Besides, may be it's your fault, you know. May be it is the way you dressed, the way you speak, the way you use your hand. Surely, if he/she was really like that, someone would have done something already?

And this kind of thinking extends to physical harrassment as well. It's very easy to blame yourself and very hard to realise that it is the assaulter's fault. Even harder to realise even once is once too many.

Especially when you are low level employee, but also applicable when you are new or when your power is just perceived and not actual (like most actors and actresses).

I am glad WB is actually investigating these complaints. May be there has been a shift in thinking in Hollywood after all. May be they have reached a tipping point.

As for what some shippers are doing. The people who do this are just like any other blind group with propaganda. They take data to fit their world view and to prove that they are right. Best to ignore.

And comic books and characters and shows have lived on for so long (even through a World War), it is highly unlikely they will be hurt because of this. The shows will just have some shake up, but they should stay on.

I'd like Adler back myself; at least for the doughnut pics. Do the cast even get doughnuts now that Adler is gone?

Just want to add that it must be a hard time for the cast and crew anyways, so harassing them in addition to that for "not standing up" is really the wrong thing to do.

Even if they didn't know anything about it, and have not been at the receiving end, this would still make a person introspect and re-look at everything they knew about Kriesberg; not to mention wondering what could have happened behind their backs in relation to themselves and people they care for.

So, if people are harassing Chris (and I heard Melissa too) over this, those people need to be flagged (or whatever it is you do in social media to make it stop). And hopefully, the actors themselves won't see it. Katie at least is thankfully not on social media. (I think others will soon retire too, for their own sanity's sake if they had that option).