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I always get this picture in my head of us sitting around a big table, some with a beer, some with a glass of wine, that's me, some with a Dr. Pepper....one or two with a Whiskey, I won't say who that is.....LOL. And we are just throwing ideas and thoughts out there...just letting it fly. I just enjoy reading everyone's stuff...everyone is laughing having a good time these days. Maybe I missed something. Probably shouldn't have had that 3rd glass of wine.

I love this! Put me down for a bloody mary half as a nod to our Red Daughter

Once this show made me so excited I couldn't wait from one Monday to the next. I was more agitated when waiting for a new season of Supergirl than Game of Thrones. It brought untold joy and inspiration into my life.

Now this show resembles the first draft of a C-grade Year 8 English assignment. All the great potential from the setting, the brilliant actors and even the directors, all undone by writing subpar beyond reason.

This is the place to discuss the show is it not? If here is not the place to critique it, where? At least our reasons for why the show is doing sub-optimally are actually reasons. It's not like we're far-right trolls screaming about "sjws" etc. We're pointing out very real defects in terms of narrative convention.

For every fictional work there are those die-hard fans, for whom any and every aspect of the work is brilliant, even when run to the gutter. If next episode everyone turned into anthropomorphic chickens, there would still be those that think it was good. Which I don't mind. But for those who don't automatically enjoy anything and everything religiously and see faults as they are, I don't believe they must behave like the former.

I never called out people for thinking elements of the show are good when they are not. Why must I pay for the reverse?

But here is the good news I suppose for those who cannot stand any thread of "negativity" (aka honesty and impartial critique). Should the show continue this way for much longer, I think my fandom with Supergirl will at last be at an end. I will thank Eric and Kelsey and all the members for the site and times we had and leave you guys in peace. That would probably work to the advantage of everyone.

I think you're doing the best possible really. Site's as good as it can be. Cheers

I get where people are coming from as far as not liking the negativity, but as someone who has worked on a forum now since 2006 and many a bad movie blow out have I seen....lol What is happening here pales in comparison. Heck, what I see here at this moment is far greater disciplined debate than what we had just a year and a half ago.

And I do understand the complaints about what is happening on the news feeds. However, that is simply the nature of the beast of a site like this. More people are going to peruse the news feed than the forum. The forum is what is being underused and it will continue to be until people see it as a place where their opinions will actually be read. It's no fun to give an opinion and no one gives a retort or agreement until days later. Again, that is the nature of the beast. We come here to read AND BE HEARD....if know one is doing either to your comments, well then you post where they will read and that is what we have happening here. Will that change? probably not, no matter how much we wish it would, the direct communication with the vast majority of a site is what people gravitate to and that is the news feed. Also, there are those that hope that MAYBE the PTB take quick glances at what is happening in the news feeds, I'm sure they do not have the time to peruse the forum.

On the news feed you have the following:

1). Synopsis of each episode. If people are giving their hopes, desires and opinion of what is to come after reading the synopsis, what is the harm in that.
2). We have photos for each episode. Isn't it kind of obvious that people will give their take on what they see in the pictures?
3). We have different news articles added weekly on this or that....if you go to the news articles themselves in the feed you will find all sorts of comments good, bad, indifferent etc.....that will probably happen here as well.

When people read these things on the news feed, it is natural to want to comment on them immediately, that is how it works.

IMO, the only way to stop that is to no longer have comments on in the news feed and have people start the conversations in the forum for each article, set of pics and synopsis. If people want to discuss then they HAVE TO GO THERE to discuss. But, IMO that is going to be a problem that would end in less discussion of these things positive or negative. To me as long as the conversation sticks to the topic of whatever is in the news feed, in all fairness, it should be fair game for all sides of the discussion.

I also understand people seeing repeat of opinions. I get that, but when their problems with the series are in every episode you may get that repeat.

Again, it is the nature of the beast of a fan site. There are all kinds of fans, coming from all walks of life, with all kinds of opinions. Unless they are being disrespectful of those that give us this series weekly, or people on this site, they should be heard.....or in this case.....read. And IMO, in all areas of the site as long as their topic of discussion meets with the article, pics, synopsis that has been posted.

I get where people are coming from as far as not liking the negativity, but as someone who has worked on a forum now since 2006 and many a bad movie blow out have I seen....lol What is happening here pales in comparison. Heck, what I see here at this moment is far greater disciplined debate than what we had just a year and a half ago.

And I do understand the complaints about what is happening on the news feeds. However, that is simply the nature of the beast of a site like this. More people are going to peruse the news feed than the forum. The forum is what is being underused and it will continue to be until people see it as a place where their opinions will actually be read. It's no fun to give an opinion and no one gives a retort or agreement until days later. Again, that is the nature of the beast. We come here to read AND BE read....if no one is doing either to your comments, well then you post where they will read and that is what we have here. Will that change? probably not, no matter how much we wish it would, the direct communication with the vast majority of a site is what people gravitate to and that is the news feed. Also, there are those that hope that MAYBE the PTB take quick glances at what is happening in the news feeds, I'm sure they do not have the time to peruse the forum.

On the news feed you have the following:

1). Synopsis of each episode. If people are giving their hopes, desires and opinion of what is to come after reading the synopsis, what is the harm in that.
2). We have photos for each episode. Isn't it kind of obvious that people will give their take on what they see in the pictures?
3). We have different news articles added weekly on this or that....if you go to the news articles themselves in the feed you will find all sorts of comments good, bad, indifferent etc.....that will probably happen here as well.

When people read these things on the news feed, it is natural to want to comment on them immediately, that is how it works.

IMO, the only way to stop that is to no longer have comments on in the news feed and have people start the conversations in the forum for each article, set of pics and synopsis. If people want to discuss then they HAVE TO GO THERE to discuss. But, IMO that is going to be a problem that would end in less discussion of these things positive or negative. To me as long as the conversation sticks to the topic of whatever is in the news feed, in all fairness, it should be fair game for all sides of the discussion.

I also understand people seeing repeat of opinions. I get that, but when their problems with the series are in every episode you may get that repeat.

Again, it is the nature of the beast of a fan site. There are all kinds of fans, coming from all walks of life, with all kinds of opinions. Unless they are being disrespectful of those that give us this series weekly, or people on this site, they should be heard.....or in this case.....read. And IMO, in all areas of the site as long as their topic of discussion meets with the article, pics, synopsis that has been posted.

People have different tastes in life; when it comes to which colour you like (blue or red), nobody minds if someone else's taste doesn't match with yours. However, when it comes to areas where we have emotional involvement (for some reason, that doesn't include colours, go figure), it seems that that objectiveness goes for a toss.

We are primarily social beings. And we want to belong. So, we either want our views represented in the forums we visit or we adjust to reflect those views. If neither can happen, there is discontent.

If our own happiness about an episode seems to come down after seeing critical comments, then, unjustly, we blame the people who don't see the things that we loved and love it the same way. And, I suppose reduced happiness is not very easy to bear with.

I am sure likewise, if you dislike how the show treats something and if you see everyone else is elated about it, you can't like it much. It makes a dissonance. So, when you see a bunch of people feeling similarly about the episode as you do, you go ahead and join in and say, oh yes, I feel this way too.

That, I suppose can get cumulative. But, I don't see how it can be avoided. It is just how the world in general and the fandom works.

It may also be because people are to some extent disheartened all over the world for some reasons--there is an anxiety, a change in human emotions going on in a collective manner--and people look to the show to give them relief from it. When they are disappointed, it is only natural that would appear in the forums. And, if someone actually finds joy in the episode, again, it is natural that they look at the forums and say... oh they are a bunch of negative posts.

I think it is best to avoid echo chambers; but at least when it comes to shows watched for entertainment, you may also need to protect your emotional well being. So, if people feel like they can't read the comments any more, they shouldn't. I don't see how you, admin, could do anything about it.

I myself have stopped going to certain forums after I found that I don't particularly like their take on things. I have seen that in (entertainment) forums in many cases, opinions tend to coalesce around a certain view point.. which may point to certain viewers visiting certain forums while certain others being attracted to another type.

The best choice is to go to the site or forum that best gives you the kind of discussion or news you are looking for. Or, to take from each, what you would like and leave the rest.

I am not well versed enough in web development to say if it is possible or not in the news site; but in forums, we could have a criticism and a positive comments thread for each episode (or each set as Kiwi has been doing). So, if people come to forum, they can just look at the positives thread (or the critique thread) if they only want that.

Anyways, I would like to say that much of my knowledge of how diverse human opinion and human perceptions are and how each person sees the same thing differently comes from being in the fandom the past few years. Your site has been a big part of that. That insight into how we all see things different has helped me in my interpersonal relationships and my worldview as well and is not limited to the fandom.

So, I think you from the bottom of my ventricles and atria for your enthusiasm for Supergirl and for this site. Thanks for being there and taking joy.

I also echo RS Chick's comment about Supergirl's attic. It is a super podcast.

Going forward I might ask a stray comment that leads to an off topic discussion on the news feed to be moved to the forum but other than that, business as usual.
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Oopss....guilty. My bad.

I always get this picture in my head of us sitting around a big table, some with a beer, some with a glass of wine, that's me, some with a Dr. Pepper....one or two with a Whiskey, I won't say who that is.....LOL. And we are just throwing ideas and thoughts out there...just letting it fly. I just enjoy reading everyone's stuff...everyone is laughing having a good time these days. Maybe I missed something. Probably shouldn't have had that 3rd glass of wine.

Make mine Jack and 7-Up.

I always get this picture in my head of us sitting around a big table, some with a beer, some with a glass of wine, that's me, some with a Dr. Pepper....one or two with a Whiskey, I won't say who that is.....LOL. And we are just throwing ideas and thoughts out there...just letting it fly. I just enjoy reading everyone's stuff...everyone is laughing having a good time these days. Maybe I missed something. Probably shouldn't have had that 3rd glass of wine.

I love this! Put me down for a bloody mary half as a nod to our Red Daughter
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I was thinking more on the lines of a Moscow Mule myself. Not that I am a drinker I'm not. But I do indulge in iced coffee (heh!)

I agree with that author, though. I loved your site in Season 1 and then came infrequently in Season 2 when it seemed to be a show apologist. I get that you need to keep the showrunners and network on side to be able to get the access that you need and so on, but it became inauthentic at some point with the need to 'please' and call criticism of the show as some kind of ship war or people with agenda. the main criticism of the show is that it was so much wasted potential.