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Good evening everyone. Let me start this post off by saying I am not equipped to handle this topic correctly or justly. I am going to tread as softly as I can and I would also like to note that any name-calling, anti-LGBT language or offense to the mandatory rules required to use this forum will be met with swift and appropriate consequences.

So with that said, I have noticed a growing divide in the Supergirl fandom this season and I need help understanding it. While this site and its users have kept things predominately fair and respectful, many other social media platforms seem to be pitting fans against each other for liking different aspects of the show.

Before I name sides and begin to try and find a reason behind the animosity lets name some of the changes that have happened between season 1 and season 2 first.

  • The Show has gained some characters and lost some characters.
  • The Show is on a new network.
  • The Show's survival isn't uncertain.
  • Supergirl.tv has grown to reach a larger audience.
  • Our social media presence has tripped since season one.

I want to illustrate these changes first because my perception of this fandom divide may have always been there and due to the above mentioned circumstances, I am just now becoming aware of it. But if these reasons are not the cause to my illumination then I am concerned.

Season 1 is different from season 2 for many reasons and that is just the nature of broadcast television. However, fans (and let me be clear I am not calling anyone out on this site) were more supportive. It felt like we were all an audience of a show that brought us together and we all shared a love for a growing hero's story. Despite plot-lines, rough early writing and power fluctuations, we all were able to comment on parts of the show we didn't like while still stating our love for the show.

Where has that gone?

In Season 2, the show has decided to cover more topics in a superheroes life some of which are more progressive leaning. A show with purpose and the platform to conquer tough issues while still maintaining its entertaining nature seems like a good thing, yet I feel we as fans are more divided than ever.

Put simply, if you like Maggie Sawyer and Alex Danver's relationship, why don't you like Mon-El? If you're a Lena supporter, why do you hate Guardian's screen-time? Why can't an episode be good if it doesn't have Cat Grant in it? Obviously these are all just examples of the absolutist feelings we are seeing out there. There are many other examples that don't need to be shared to illustrate my point.

Somewhere along the line sides were drawn and a solid fan-base became split. This is where things get very tricky for me. It's the reason I say I am not equipped to handle this topic and where I will choose to ask to be educated rather than seek a solution.

Appropriate and positive representation of the LGBT community on television has been lacking for many many years. There are legitimate concerns with how LGBT community members are portrayed in the media from stereotyping, senseless deaths, and even screen-time. Obviously the Maggie and Alex story-line falls into this category of LGBT representation in the media which is why begin to ask for clarity.

When did there become an attitude of absolution? Many of the comments I see on social media are of the nature that say "my view is right, yours is wrong and no one supports you because what I want is what everyone wants". In season 1 it felt like we were all able to say, "I didn't care for aspect X but I still enjoy the show and can afford that others may enjoy aspect X knowing that it still didn't resonate with me."

There are concerns here, however, for equality. Is a positive LGBT relationship being given appropriate screen-time to maintain its positive message? That is not for me to decide but can be a valuable reason to be concerned over screen-time. It however, shouldn't mean that other story-lines in the show shouldn't be told.

Perhaps I am letting social media get the better of me. Because of our site's growth, I am seeing exponentially more messages than I used to. Maybe this divide isn't really there and I am just succumbing to internet trolls. Trolls don't need to back up their absolutist declarations, they just submit them like breathing.

All in all, I just don't understand the new feelings of this fandom taking sides. The show has problems without a doubt, but it isn't bad enough that we need to take sides. Perhaps there are too many story-lines going on this season or too many new characters or even a lack of focus on an overarching season goal. But in the end can't we do like Kara did in Myriad and be stronger together?

I am not sure what its going to take to heal this fandom, or if it even needs to be healed or united but based solely on my perception, we were a united group of fans last season and it pains me to see this growing divide this year.

To clarify my point, I am in no way saying that I am disappointed in any of our very valued users here as you all have made this site's community a bright and caring group of people. I am reflecting more on what happens outside our proverbial site walls.

Do you have any ideas what can be done? ... El May Arah
You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders.
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Here's my take:

Supergirl/Kara hasn't changed, really. As Kara, she's more assertive in her job and more outgoing with strangers. She's growing and maturing. She is the core of the show. Supergirl's kindness, strength, generosity, and unselfish heroism are what make the show a success.

I like Mon-El. He's also changing as a person, but due to Kara's influence. On some level which he is probably unaware, he wants to be a better person, one who is worthy of Kara. I find that wonderful in a man. Needless to say, I approve of Kara and Mon-El and want to see their relationship progress.

I like Alex and Maggie. Actually, I would like to see more of their relationship without the drama. Poor Alex deserves to be happy. The notion of a same-sex relationship in an action/adventure superhero show is very daring and the writers are doing it right. It was nice to read the article on how that storyline is changing lives for the better.

I wish that M'Gann hadn't left. J'onn deserves some happiness too. But without M'Gann, I worry that he will be sidelined as a character.

I don't mind Guardian, but I don't see the character evolving. It's nice to see Winn out in the field being the man in the van. And speaking of...

I like Winn's girlfriend Lyra. I think it's so cool that he's okay with her being physically stronger and the more assertive one. Not every man can be Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

To sum up: I'm fine with where the writers are taking us. If we just got a retread of season 1, the show would die. But people will disagree with the new characters and new plotlines. Social media have a tendency to bring out people's bad sides, which is the opposite of what Supergirl is about. I don't want Supergirl to be a Fort Rozz escapee of the week which Supergirl defeats in 42 minutes, flies home, and watches TV while eating pizza and potstickers.

I trust the writers to do good by our hero. I'm along for the ride, all the way. I DVR each episode, then I went on iTunes and bought a season pass for all the episodes and watch every one a third time on the CW app. Apparently the powers that be pay attention to statistics like that. I want Supergirl to thrive and do well. Sure I've nitpicked details like the over the knee flaps on her boots, but overall, I'm very happy with the show. I love Melissa and Chyler as actresses. Whoever cast them deserves a raise!

I miss Cat, because she was such a good strong character and Calista did such great work as the character. But maybe it's okay for Kara not to have a safety net to fall back on, that she has to deal with the nasty, uncouth, and negative Snapper on her own. It would be nice to see some of Kara's positivity rub off on him!

Finally, about Lena. I like that character as well. I'm glad that Kara has a female friend. Aside from Alex, all her friends are men. So kudos to somebody for realizing that detail.
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Thank you to you all! This has been a very therapeutic thread for Kelsey and I. I don't know that we intended it to be that but all of your comments, grace, care, and thoughtful replies has reminded us why this site has the best Supergirl community on the web!

If we were to sum up an outcome of this thread in a simple statement, it would have to be; "Continue to love the parts of the show you love, love them passionately and get lost in the majesty of it all. But know that what makes this show great for some isn't true for all. Be kind, be thoughtful and allow all to enjoy every aspect not by tearing down what you don't like, but by raising up the parts you do."

You guys are an incredible group of fans, thank you again!
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And this is why the fan community such as we have here at Supergirl.tv is greatly needed. Namely, to avoid the wild extremes found in other online outlets and to provide a semblance of balance and a modicum of civilised debate. It is also a fair and free-flow exchange of ideas on a character / characters and a TV series we all love so much.

Truth be told, this conversation would be as heated - if not more so - if the same-sex relationship angle that is currently being conveyed between two female characters were male instead. The vitriol would be at a fever pitch. Nasty wouldn't even begin to cover it.

Sadly, I have also noticed that some of the posters that used to contribute to these boards on a fairly regular basis left when the Sanvers relationship came into being. They've either gone to other TV show groups and / or have stopped watching Supergirl completely. Sometimes pushing the tolerance and acceptance envelope can repel people rather than engage them in constructive dialogue and expanded thought. This isn't necessarily a personal character fault of any particular individual, but rather a social tolerance threshold.

In my modest view, the EPs, producers and writers would be well served to note the social tolerance thresholds and it would be more beneficial for them in the long run to more carefully weigh some their creative choices if the angles they are attempting to put out to the public were nudged along rather than pushed.

In any event, the EPs, producers and writers will have to grapple with this more fully and tactfully in the long run if the show wishes to retain its core viewership and not run it into the ground by appearing to appeal to / appease a particular "agenda" or get bogged down with too many side-stories.

I agree with a great deal of what has been brought forth by various posters in this thread and feel that a little more foresight and character development / follow-through by the writers, producers and EPs is required to keep the good ship Supergirl on an even storytelling keel.

As many have correctly pointed out, some of the relationships or expanded character roles in S2 have worked out well, some haven't, and some are skating on very thin plausibility ice and are testing viewers' patience. This has nothing to do with the actors, crews or their abilities, but rather the producers and writers' decision to push an all-inclusive model which the viewing public may or may not be completely receptive to. The common mantra of two steps forward and one step back comes to mind.

Nonetheless, from my perspective, as long as Supergirl's story is told and treated with a degree of fairness and honesty (which in our current world is in very short supply), it is a show worth waiting for and continuing to watch on a regular basis.

Remember, stay positive and stay constructively engaged.
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As most around here know, I am very straight forward with my opinions....lol

With that said, I will always be loyal to the fans here, and to the fans on the site that I moderate as well. That is a given with me, and that loyalty extends to the owners of those sites as well. So, anytime that I see or feel that those people are being treated unfairly, I will strongly speak out against that, I think people that know me here, on SHH and follow me on Twitter would agree that I am not blowing hot air with the above statement.

Eric is correct there are groups out there that hold an agenda when watching this show and feeding into the fan base. This particular series is not the only one that has gone through this....Arrow has had a terrible "shipping" war for years, Flash has gone through it as well, LoT to a certain degree, and of course the first of this group Agents Of Shield. It is one of the reasons why most of the actors stay away from ALL SITES, it's a shame that they cannot frequent these sites, but I for one am very glad that they do not.

As far as my site (SHH) and this site, we have not really had the problem of certain groups coming in whether they "ship" one couple or another. There was a time that we had a few come in and hijack the news comments on the front page, but not often. SHH is lucky that our Front Page News comments are separate and far away from the forum. TWITTER and Tmblr however are not as pleasant as this site. I have used my block and mute option on TWITTER moreso recently than ever before....lol, THAT is how I would encourage those of you that frequent those areas and do not like what you are reading, to do.....rather than partake in the divisiveness...I got pulled in Monday night and a little Tuesday, and that was when I decided that the Mute/Block was the best option, that is what I would suggest.

As for me, I HIGHLY respect those fans that have been a fan of Supergirl for decades from the early years of the comics to now. I learned that respect from being a non-comic book reader, joining a large comic book/ movie site having absolutely no knowledge of these superheros except that i had watched a movie or two about them. They taught me, and because of that I respect them. That is something that I believe the "new" fans to Supergirl need to do far more as well. LEARN from them....

This is not a show about homogeneous vs. heterogeneous relationships it is not a show about Feminism vs. Male Empowerment, it is not a show about Conservative vs. Liberal, it is not a show about Black vs. White......it is about ALL OF THOSE THINGS living, learning, coping, crying, laughing, fighting TOGETHER, not FIGHTING AGAINST each other. IMO, this show would not be what it is, or as enjoyable as it is IF ANY OF THOSE THINGS were lost. Therefore, I don't see one above the other, I don't see one more important than the other. I feel, however, that it is KARA/SUPERGIRL that is the central point that all of those things revolve around, so...............IT IS LOGICAL, that those that are closest to her will have screen time above the others. The only time I'm going to gripe about screen time is when KARA/SUPERGIRL does not have the lion share of it. THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I will also gripe when KARA/SUPERGIRL is not the lead in vanquishing the foe, THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I will also gripe when other heroes take her time on screen, THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. hahahahahahahahaha....because it is Kara/Supergirl that should be the nodal point of this series. SO, it is this point that I try and find clarity and agreement on with all of the fans above....IF THEY DO NOT agree on that point, then they go on mute/block AND that problem is taken care of. That is how I navigate all of these sites, and thus far it has worked beautifully.

And know this for sure, this site and its regulars, SHH and its regulars will have my backing, always.........just a warning, I can get testy when those people are disrespected. :)

Just my two cents...... or maybe 5 cents...;)
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Things I love about Supergirl...

Kara and Alex relationship
Alex and Maggie relationship
Jonn's relationship with everyone
Is she good is she bad Lena Luthor
Mama Luthor, scares the bejezus out of me and I love that
Kara and Mon-El

Those are in no particular order, I just want to have a post in here that is all positive. This show makes my Monday and anytime I decide to re-watch an episode. This last episode I've watched 3 times already because it is just that good.

*sighs* That feels good. ;)
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As Melissa has said in several interviews....

Kara's optimism, hope, desire to do good, and love for family and friends is at the very core of her being....and no matter what happens, she will always go back to that. It is so strong that Melissa has said that when she's not sure of where to go with Kara, she simply goes back to that....it's that simple.

When I watch the dark hard scenes, it just makes the light, fun, optimistic, hopeful Kara look that much brighter.
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Well, it looks like some have figured out their own solution to this and it is #RESPECT SUPERGIRL CAST which I believe was trending last night. So pretty much stop with the name calling, fighting, etc, respect the cast and the hard work they are doing for our enjoyment.

Some still are miffed here and there, but it seems a fairly large group are wanting to move on from all of this.
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I actually just mentioned something along these same lines in last night's episode thread our Kiwi always sets up for us. Personally, I think you did a terrific job addressing the issue.

I actually appreciate the fans who populate this forum. On the news page, comments seem to stray towards being a bit "harsh" from time to time. But the same harshness doesn't seem to spill over into the forum as much.

As for me, I'm not a huge "Sanvers" fan, for my own personal reasons. But, I certainly wouldn't attack or put down a Team Sanvers member. And, I've actually appreciated the incredible acting from both ladies. But my goodnes...you are absolutely right... I have seen some rather venomous battles out there from all kinds of Supergirl fanbases... Team Karmel going after Sanvers while Supercorp (Lena-Kara shippers) go after Karmel.... guardian... And all other things you've mentioned, above. I once made the mistake (before Sanvers was even a thing or that Alex was even gay), of tweeting the writers during an episode about Winn and Alex being awesome together in scenes and... MAN!!...it was like the deep dark web awakened and attacked me like a pack of ravenous wolves..."She's GAY, you blankety blank blank!!!!" Foul language, calling me foul slangs, trying to go through my whole twitter. So I quickly retreated back to our forum family. We disagree, from time to time... Like you mentioned. We break scenes down and discuss weaknesses. But do so, generally, fairly, respectfully, and meet each other in "the middle" when we don't end up on the same "side" of issues.

I think perhaps...the show has picked up some younger fans this season??...which has its pros and cons. The only real con being, PERHAPS... SOME of the newer fans don't always choose the best path for discussing differences? But, I guess you could say not all of the older fanbase choose their words wisely, either. lol

But of all the sites I feel most comfortable participating in...the site I feel contains more of the O.G. Supergirl fans... (fans from the first days of it airing)...seem to have found their way here. And then I've enjoyed seeing THOSE peeps welcoming new forum members.

Not sure much can be done off site. I like what Kelly suggested to me in the other thread, when I mentioned what I had witnessed last night.. the venom being spewed in the Supergirl "thread" as it was trending.. She suggested mute and block. Saddly it wasnt in my newsfeed that I COULD block. I'll just have to learn not to get hyped to see what comments were flooding the trend.

Keep up the terrific job you're doing here admin. Really...all we as Team Supergirl can do here is not jump into the venom, welcome new commentors, and gently steer them to keep comments positive.
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Quite an interesting discussion! Thanks to all for your input and for the admin for starting the thread. Now for my 2 cents worth: I really don't follow Twitter or any of the other websites very much, but from what I've seen and heard about, I'm reminded of a wonderful line from "Inherit the Wind'" when Spencer Tracy comments that "fanaticism and ignorance are forever busy, and need feeding." It's a sad fact of life today that so many are so angry about so many different things (often without justification, but that's another topic). I'm neither a psychologist or a sociologist, but it seems that many people have a deep need to be angry; if they are not angry they are not happy. In the anonymity of the internet they can rave away. The absence of that is what makes this website so great. Yes, we have spirited debates and disagreements, but I think that many of us feel we "know" each other, and it fosters a more civil dialog. So I guess my advice is to follow Supergirl.TV and ignore the rest.
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Mon El is going to tear the fandom apart. It's only going to get worse as the season continues.

The myopic focus on this character and his relationship with Supergirl has altered the basic dynamic of the show.


I totally disagree, fans of only certain aspects of the show, certain story lines are what I see on social media as the biggest problem. Monday nights last year, I use to go on Twitter in between the East coast and West coast showings type in #Supergirl and have a BLAST....

I do that now, and all it is is "shipping" wars and people upset that their ship is not getting screen time, and absolutely typing tweets that are "rude, crude and socially unacceptable". I see the word "HATE" so often it is ridiculous, I see tweets from certain shippers that actually HATE the fandom that loves the show and tweets about every relationship, every story line....like that is a bad thing.

The fandom of Supergirl that was there last season, and is still here this season will be fine if they base their enjoyment on the series as a whole. If they get caught up in this shipping stuff, in this screen time stuff....then yeah they will not enjoy it and possibly fall away. But that isn't the shows fault, that is their own fault.

The only negative I see, is that I can no longer go on Twitter in between the east and west coast showings and have fun with the writers any more because of the absolutely hateful things that people are posting to them, and it is coming in a GRAND MAJORITY from ONE GROUP, with another in close 2nd. But I will leave it at that....and within the next few episodes I will have those 2 groups on mute as a whole, and go back to enjoying the show for what it is, a Superhero comic book action series about a young woman and the life she lives and the stories that go with that...
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seems chyler is speaking up to fans as well here are a couple tweets from her

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basically with in 24 hours of each other. I'd say she is a little low key disappointed

Maybe we should show her this thread. Its been thoughtful, respectful, and hopefully healing in some way. I think the vast majority of community here are very respectful and kind. Good fans and good thoughts shared. Ultimately if we can all agree to be fans that live by the motto I shared, I think we will all be able to enjoy the show!

Possible new site motto (I'm still thinking about it): "Continue to love the parts of the show you love, love them passionately and get lost in the majesty of it all. But know that what makes this show great for some isn't true for all. Be kind, be thoughtful and allow all to enjoy every aspect not by tearing down what you don't like, but by raising up the parts you do."
You will give the people of Earth an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall. But in time, they will join you in the sun, Kal. In time, you will help them accomplish wonders.
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Unfortunately we can't do anything but stay focus on the positive. Like Supergirl keep the faith and spread your enjoyment to the show. The rest follows or not, but the people looking for it will come (i so like "Field of Dreams" movie sorry).
But everything is a projection of personal feeling about how people think thing should be for there own approval. We are talking about fictional characters, they don't even exist. So hating is really about themself. But it work both ways, love as well. We can relate for the feeling of love that procure and we enjoy that.
So the first thing i remember is that actors are humans with feelings. No need to put them under any circumstances in harms way. I don't like all characters doesn't mean i'm going to hate the actor incarnate him or her, it serve nothing.
Two, when producers talk about "centric" episode, it can not be the main story, we still on the Supergirl show. That means second principal arc and i'm not shocked about it. Anyway, i'm glad i found that site and forum and i stick with it (also glad i'm not elsewhere :D for my good health)
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I for one am surprised at the vitriol I have seen on other sites or in other media. Maybe this is a personal thing for me, but I cannot understand a person disliking one aspect or a few aspects of a show, and then berating others who like those aspects. And it always seems to be about the romantic pairings that people spar the most. It is probably due to the fact that I dont care for romantic relationships in any kind of media, that I dont understand disliking or liking a romantic couple so much that people would put down another person for liking the opposite. I am not fond of Kara and Mon El, mostly bc as I said before, romantic relationships dont interest me. I found their mentor-mentee dynamic much more interesting. But if someone likes it, that is fine! I want people to like the show. And if you tune in every week because you want to see more of Mon El and Kara, or you want to see Alex and Maggie be all cute, or you want to see Kara and Lena's chemistry, or you want to see Supergirl defeat the bad guys, that is great!

Anyway, this site is great. Everyone is so thoughtful and polite, even when people disagree. I always tend to take the mental stance when it comes to television that as long as I am having fun watching, I will continue. It comes from Tegan from Doctor Who says "...if you stop enjoying it, give it up...It's stopped being fun." Supergirl is still a lot of fun for me, and I can only hope it continues to be fun for other fans, old and new.
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Ships – I plainly find it offensive what I see on Tumbler, Twitter, and other sites. I am not a prude, but I find that there is an extremist Lesbian community that can be awfully gross. My sister (who has 2 Mothers-in-Law) and I have discussed this. I remember very clearly that on one site they fotoshopped an implied sex act between Cat and Kara. They have also had ones of the two kissing. I find that as gross as if you had Hugh Heffner kissing her. Age inappropriate. In addition, there is that constant drive to have Lena and Kara engage in a sexual relationship. There is a ton of this stuff on-line and I think it disparages the gay community, as wall as offends.
The M’Gann relationship I found odd. Did it add to this years’ story arc? While well done, I thought it distracting.
Lena and Lillian – I love Lillian’s villainy. She is the perfect foil for Supergirl this year. She is human, smart, and dangerous. She is a worthy mother to Lex Luthor and I am excited to see what happens to her. Lena, in turn, is tough as nails. She can take on her mother and I believe she truly loves Kara in the friendship way. But, like Cat, she is a high-powered executive and you don’t get there without dirtying your hands. There is a gray aspect to her and we will see how that plays out.
Mon-El – The on-screen banter is wonderful to see. Now that they have finally taken the plunge, I hope the Eps don’t take us down a dark road Kara deserves happiness. I do not se this as distracting her from her primary mission.
Jeremiah – What about him?? Everyone is focused elsewhere and not on him. This was the second part of the Cadmus Arc and they have been too slow to deliver. Fans expected better and we shall see what happens next week and perhaps beyond…?

Kara Zor-El – All the facets of Kara are expressions of her true self, whether she is Kara Danvers or Supergirl. I enjoy getting to know the Kara Danvers side. She is different from her Supergirl persona. But she is one in the same and I think we all need to remember that. She is one, and to know all gives a wonderful view of her as an individual.

Season 3 – I hope that the EPs build on the strengths of the actors and character to create a cohesive and flowing Arc. I think this year, they have failed in that regard and they need to focus their attention on a manageable storyline without going all over the place. In terms of cast, their biggest problem is James. He does not seem to have a place in the show. The EPs need to resolve that and again focus on what Supergirl is about.

My 2 cents.

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The "Writer's room" on Twitter was confronted by a mom that stated she was not able to allow her kids of 10 and I believe 12 to watch Supergirl anymore because of the #Sanvers relationship. She asked how was she supposed to explain this relationship to her children when they asked....

I found that to be a question that is asked a lot on Twitter...as far as the show is concerned and the actors portraying these roles, the answer should be simple. These two people love each other.....done. Our children will take on our viewpoints no matter how right or wrong they are.

My view is really very simple, if two people love each other, who am I to say they are wrong. If they love each other shouldn't they be free to express that love like any other couple that is in love and growing in a relationship? yes.... I do not begin to understand the Biological details of any of this..... what I do know is I want people to be happy, I want people to belong, I want people to feel they belong, and I want people to be free to be themselves. That is the simplicity of it.

What I am seeing on Twitter however, is one group not even desiring to understand the other group. When I see videos posted on twitter and the statement with the video is.... "The only important scenes in Supergirl right here" and it is only the #Sanvers scenes, that is ridiculous, and I see that a lot. Or manips of some of the posters to push their agenda. That is not being inclusive, and yet they demand to be included. I want to shout to them....... I WANT YOU TO BE INCLUDED, I LOVE THAT YOU ARE BEING INCLUDED, I LOVE MAGGIE AND ALEX'S RELATIONSHIP. It is such a cool relationship, and the actors and writers and producers are doing a beautiful job of portraying it....and then I see so many that have cried out for this inclusion, totally excluding every other aspect of Supergirl and then getting upset when someone questions their fandom of the series. It has gotten to the point that I have to block/mute those people and it absolutely breaks my heart that I can't have great conversations with them.....I wish I could. I know that it has come from both sides of this issue, but it has been a far greater number of those that I described above. As some have stated those that are against same sex relationships for the most part have departed from the show....I find that sad, but I can only say to that......they are the ones missing out on a great show, I do not believe for one second that the show should forgo these relationships. They have not been overly demonstrative about Maggie and Alex's relationship that I can see, but it is of course their choice, and they have made it. Just as I stated above the "Writers Room" was asked that question from the mom, and their answer was really simple..... tell them that they are in love. And as was so beautifully stated at last year's Tony Awards... "Love is love, is love, is love, is love......" In my opinion, it is as simple as that, and I think both sides can learn a lesson from that sentiment.

What I see on tmblr and twitter in GREAT NUMBERS unfortunately is 1 side stating (it's THIS and only THIS is important, all other stuff is irrelevant and makes the show crap) and the other side stating (THAT is wrong and should not be seen, and THAT is what is making the show crap).....and the rest of us are in between simply trying to post and talk about a show that we love. It's pretty sad.....

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I'd just like to add that the primary attraction of this show is entertainment. At the same time since the 70s, shows have been used to express certain issues. I remember the shock people had when menopause was covered on All in the Family. Pretty bland by today's standards! But that is TV.

I have friends who have stopped watching for various reasons. I respect their decision. I will continue to watch and remember that a lot of material was drawn from the silver age. For example, Supergirl had a fling with Mon-El.

Yes, there are some things about the current season I do not like. However, I overall enjoy it, particularly 2.2. In the tradition of TV, the EPs raise certain issues: immigration, inter-racial relationships, the life of being gay. Frankly, some people will be ticked off by some content. My sole concern is for the young girls and boys watching this. Is some material or issues too mature for them? I am not judging the content. We also need to remember this.

In the end, Kara Zor-El makes me happy. I look forward to each Monday night and DVR each episode. Some I like and can watch a number of times; others I just view once and say "Meh." But Kara continues to draw me in her story, her growth, her successes and failures.

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kiwi wrote something, but someone cut it (^_^)


evrafter, must be time for a group hug.


Jondix squeeze kiwi ... and gets an orange juice ... kidding, my hug was too hard :-*
evrafter where are you ?
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Jondix squeeze kiwi ... and gets an orange juice ... kidding, my hug was too hard :-*
evrafter where are you ?


Over here *waves and jumps up and down*
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Argo...this! "..but I find that there is an extremist Lesbian community that can be awfully gross. My sister (who has 2 Mothers-in-Law) and I have discussed this."

You have completely summed up my concerns on this. Though I disagree with homosexuality, I'm one that doesn't judge, nor condemn. People CAN disagree with choices while still adoring people making said choices.

With THAT said, what's made me most disgusted is simply the part of the Lesbian community that have taken a SECTION of the Sanvers fanbase (and Supercorp) to a whole new level of gross, from what I've experienced online...which, IMHO takes away from the "innocence" and unity the show once exhibited. ..and hinders their "cause." So, I've learned just to hang here in our lovely Supergirl community. It USE to be fun "out there," though...watching Supergirl trend and get more recognition in social media. But Eric and Kelsey are correct...the whole feel of a chunk of the fanbase has gone awry--either being gross or just simply fighting online. Boooo.
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Mon El is going to tear the fandom apart. It's only going to get worse as the season continues.

The myopic focus on this character and his relationship with Supergirl has altered the basic dynamic of the show.


Let's agree to disagree. I do not see at all what is wrong with him. Mon-El is an awesome character with much humour and wit, well portrayed and well written. A fine addition to the second season, and carries the show when other characters let it down.

I don't know if your problem is with Mon-El or with Kara having a relationship and I don't see how either is a bad thing. If you think Kara's love life is a distraction to a show about her, yet the heavy focus on the love life of a supporting character isn't, then I don't quite understand the reasoning.
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