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Title: Midvale
Directed By: Rob Greenlea
Air Date: November 13th, 2017 8pm The CW
Written By: Caitlin Parrish & Jess Kardos

Official Description: Kara and Alex head home to Midvale for a little R&R. While there, Kara recalls a painful memory of a childhood friend’s death and how that traumatic experience brought the Danver sisters closer together. Izabela Vidovic plays Young Kara and Olivia Nikkanen plays Young Alex in flashbacks.

Reoccurring Cast: Eliza Danvers (Helen Slater)
Guest Stars: Olivia Nikkanen (Teenaged Alex) | Izabela Vidovic (Teenaged Kara) | Josie (Eliana Jones) | Mr. Bernard (Mik Byskov) | Sheriff Collins (David Chisum)

Special Notes: This episode is going to be a big flashback to Midvale High. Heavy with amazing sister action, we'll get to see how the girls were getting through high school, including a scene with the girls fighting over bathroom time and a hair straightener. Kara and Alex will set aside their differences in popularity to uncover a mystery unfolding at their school that resulted in the death of a student (a character named Kenny) and the injury of another (named Mark), as well as a conspiracy held by their teacher, Mr. Bernard. Josie, Alex's friend who views Kara as an unpopular dork, holds a clue to Mr. Bernard's secret in a trade for a good recommendation letter to Berkley. What Mr. Bernard is up to and just how Kara and Alex will solve the case is still unfolding!
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A moment of silence for Kenny pls. The guy was legend
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That was a nice vacation from the main arc. I really don’t need every episode to be all about taking down villains. It gives the series a chance to explore character dimensions, so I’m all for these side trips now and then. Especially when we get to see more Danvers family interaction.

I have 2 favorite things in this episode. I finally get a real interaction between Kara and Eliza. Something I’ve been craving for since day 1. It’s a start, but I need more. It seems every time we have an Eliza ep, she has been there to get Alex thru her difficulties, hence, I’ve always felt the Mother, daughter relationship for Alex and Eliza, but I’ve never seen or felt it for Kara and Eliza. Only been told it. So, I really hope they will give Melissa and Helen more scenes in the future. Melissa made me tear up in the porch scene. She‘s just so great at all those myriads of subtle expressions. And they’re so understated that I forget that this is an actor who is acting. She just ‘is’.

Okay enough of that. My no. 1 favorite thing. I am so HAPPY to see that we finally get a confirmation of Kara’s Mathematical and Science abilities. Something that has always made zero sense to me considering Kara grew up to 12 yrs old in a society light years ahead of Earth.

I my mind, I always thought that Kara was just pretending to be rubbish at maths and sciences. And I made up this head cannon that being she was sensitive to Alex’ resentment of her abilities, so knowing that Alex was attracted to science, Kara walked away from it, the way she walked away from her powers to protect them. So she would'nt be taking that away from Alex too. And I’m still sticking to that. It makes no sense that Kara would be bad at science with her Kryptonian background.
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I liked this episode even if there was not as much Melissa and Chyler (and adult Kara and Alex) in it as I would have liked.

And I liked that we got J'onn. I don't know why I am so pleased with this; but I am. I was not expecting it.

And we got an Eliza-Kara conversation.
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I my mind, I always thought that Kara was just pretending to be rubbish at maths and sciences. And I made up this head cannon that being she was sensitive to Alex’ resentment of her abilities, so knowing that Alex was attracted to science, Kara walked away from it, the way she walked away from her powers to protect them. So she would'nt be taking that away from Alex too. And I’m still sticking to that. It makes no sense that Kara would be bad at science with her Kryptonian background.


You know I like the reference to Kara being science/math whiz too. But, I would not like her having sacrificed science/math for Alex because that would be too much that Kara has sacrificed for Alex.

That makes their relationship unbalanced and unfair.

However, Kara may still find Earth science difficult just like how an experimental physicist or atomic physicist would find it difficult to work with the day and times of 3rd century BC science; say science in Aristotle's times. It's not just about knowing the basics. It's also about not having the right tools to prove something or work beyond something. Rediscovering the wheel is not probably fun for someone who can fly.

She may find it too backward to be interested in it. History/Reporting/Writing etc. on the other hand would be just as challenging as it would have been on her planet, so I can see her going for it. I was a bit surprised she was not more interested in Earth history; but I think she was still dealing with her loss and hating on Earth at the time.

The whole I want to live with Clark and be a superhero thing was amusing.

I was a bit surprised Alex needed help from someone on Math; Ah! Well, she chose genetics for a reason.
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Okay enough of that. My no. 1 favorite thing. I am so HAPPY to see that we finally get a confirmation of Kara’s Mathematical and Science abilities. Something that has always made zero sense to me considering Kara grew up to 12 yrs old in a society light years ahead of Earth.

I my mind, I always thought that Kara was just pretending to be rubbish at maths and sciences. And I made up this head cannon that being she was sensitive to Alex’ resentment of her abilities, so knowing that Alex was attracted to science, Kara walked away from it, the way she walked away from her powers to protect them. So she would'nt be taking that away from Alex too. And I’m still sticking to that. It makes no sense that Kara would be bad at science with her Kryptonian background.

I don’t think they’ve ever said Kara is “bad” at math and science just that she wasn’t interested in them. On Krypton she was a typical student and learned calculus at four but that doesn’t mean she was a math wiz on her home planet or that she particularly enjoyed math and science there. Kara already knew all the Earth math most people do and she’s just not interested in learning PHD level stuff. Given how competitive the girls were I don’t think Kara would’ve heald back in school.
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Question for you all:

Why did the sheriff try to kill Alex and Kara with the car? Sure, they were investigating, but at that point in the story he didn't know about the laptop, and Alex and Kara thought it was the teacher, so what was his motive? Surely more kids showing turning up dead would bring a lot more heat.
Imra: "What about Tommy and Gina? 'You live for the fight when it's all that you've got!'"

Mon El: "Bon Jovi."

Imra: "Or was that all a lie?"

Mon El: "No. He speaks the truth."
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Question for you all:

Why did the sheriff try to kill Alex and Kara with the car? Sure, they were investigating, but at that point in the story he didn't know about the laptop, and Alex and Kara thought it was the teacher, so what was his motive? Surely more kids showing turning up dead would bring a lot more heat.


Ohhhh...good observation!!
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The Buffy musical episode is widely considered the standard for TV musical episodes and I think “Midvale” will become the standard for TV flashback episodes.

Bravo to Olivia and Izabela, it’s very hard to come in and play a different age version of an already established character. These young women are very talented and clearly did their homework in order to do what they did, remember their names folks they’re going to be around for years to come if they chose to be. I’m sure Melissa and Chyler happily answered any questions and couldn’t be prouder of their young counterparts. The casting department at Berlanti productions deserves a raise for not only finding actresses that physically resembled their adult counterparts but have similar acting chops.

I loved Eliza and Kara’s talk, more for Kara to think about that I’m sure will come into play later. Very cool that Eliza was reading a book by Cat. Alex was totally right to call Kara a hypocrite for saying that she should talk about her feelings only hours after breaking off an engagement. I’m glad that Kara didn’t seriously fight back on that or anything else Alex said, as Kara said it was Alex’s turn. Awesome that Alex knew her sister would come to save her, it reminded me of her literal leap of faith in “resist”.

I think Eliza just thought the FBI showed up because Kara used her powers. If J’onn had shown up looking like Hank Eliza would’ve NEVER let him alone with Kara. I do think it was kinda mean of J’onn to show up as Alura, he could’ve just been a female FBI agent and probably had the same impact, I suppose PTB want to use Erica as much as possible. That’s twice he’s shown up as a long lost parent.

I get how some people didn’t understand how Alex could go from being angry with Kara to not the next morning, here’s my thought on that. Alex was drunk the night before and things do tend to look different in the sober light of morning. Alex did in fact get the good night sleep that she didn’t realize she needed, Kara was right about that much. Both sisters have some things to think about and I was happy the left Midvale with lighter hearts singing to Gwen Stefani.
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A moment of silence for Kenny pls. The guy was legend


Hey, we didn't get a moment of silence for "Kelly" and she had far more screen time.:o :( :( :( :(
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A moment of silence for Kenny pls. The guy was legend


Hey, we didn't get a moment of silence for "Kelly" and she had far more screen time.:o :( :( :( :(


Ugh. Poor Kelly. I STILL haven't fully gotten over the sting.
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rip Kelly
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I thought that this was a nice episode. The writing was pretty solid. There didn't seem to be any glaring inconsistencies, weak dialogue or rushed scenes that took away from the overall story. Instead, it was an episode in which the viewer could just sit back and enjoy.

It's a good problem to have but, it's really hard to pinpoint a favorite scene because there were lots of little touches that I enjoyed in the episode. I liked seeing normal sources of sister conflict happen between Kara and Alex. I loved the scene in which we first see Alex's resentment of Kara when she told her that gaining Kara as a sister was in no way an equal replacement for the loss of family that Alex felt by losing her dad.

I also really liked the conversation between Eliza and Kara regarding Kara locking up her emotions. I think it was a pivotal conversation that shows how Kara is torn between distancing herself from emotional pain by keeping people at an arm's length and allowing people in by showing her emotional vulnerability.

I think it was a nice introduction to the sister's past but, I also believe that the writers left the door open enough to show the continuing development of the sister relationship in future episodes.

The only thing that I would like to have seen in this first ;) flashback of the season, was more of an interaction between the flashback and the current time period. But, as it was done, it didn't damper the experience.
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For all the ranting and raving that Sanvers shippers were quitting the show, and that people were boycotting Supergirl due to the Kreisberg fiasco, the ratings actually had a small uptick this week.

Makes me happy.
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A moment of silence for Kenny pls. The guy was legend


Hey, we didn't get a moment of silence for "Kelly" and she had far more screen time.:o :( :( :( :(


Ugh. Poor Kelly. I STILL haven't fully gotten over the sting.


I'm still in therapy.....:(
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She may find it too backward to be interested in it. History/Reporting/Writing etc. on the other hand would be just as challenging as it would have been on her planet, so I can see her going for it. I was a bit surprised she was not more interested in Earth history; but I think she was still dealing with her loss and hating on Earth at the time.
Yes, I think her lack of desire to learn Earth's history, more specifically, American history is based on the fact that she didn't feel a connection with Earth, humans or the United States. She was a foreigner, angry at the world and was determined not to form any type of bond with the place that she didn't want to be.

Why did the sheriff try to kill Alex and Kara with the car? Sure, they were investigating, but at that point in the story he didn't know about the laptop, and Alex and Kara thought it was the teacher, so what was his motive?
Good point. The "who done it" was not that difficult to figure out early on but, this episode wasn't really supposed to be a murder mystery, just a mystery within a drama portion of a superhero show :).

Perhaps we need a flashback episode of Kara's first meeting with Kelly so she can be properly remembered.
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Even if I'm not concerned about the ratings, I'm also happy Supergirl is steady.

I'd think those who were vocal about "quitting" the show are most likely the same people who don't watch and just keep talking trash hoping it helps getting the show cancelled.

For all the ranting and raving that Sanvers shippers were quitting the show, and that people were boycotting Supergirl due to the Kreisberg fiasco, the ratings actually had a small uptick this week.

Makes me happy.
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Another great episode, the best one of season 6 so far. Better Snellville than Snellville. There was one minor continuity flaw, though. Early in the flasbac scenes, Eliza says Jeremiah is at work, but John shoes up in disguise to speak to Kara. Did the DEO tell Eliza that her husband had died, is this before or after MM took Hank Henshaws place?
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After "Midvale", watching the Pilot episode gives me a whole great new feeling. It's nice to imagine the events of "Midvale" when Alex knocks on Kara's door before her fateful flight to Switzerland.

Alex: Why do you do this to me?

Kara: Because I'm your sister and you love me...

Awww. :D

The episode really gave us a lot of knowledge about why the sisters are that close.
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For all the ranting and raving that Sanvers shippers were quitting the show, and that people were boycotting Supergirl due to the Kreisberg fiasco, the ratings actually had a small uptick this week.

Makes me happy.


And if that makes you happy, it makes me happy. Case closed.
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Thinking back, I think this episode explained more than anything why Kara would consider Alex her home but not her adoptive parents.

Eliza (and Jeremiah) were always great to her, but they probably reminded her too much of what she had lost; of her parents. Add to that any guilt she might feel about "betraying" her parents by showing even the slightest amount of love to a new set (even though Eliza has said that she doesn't intend to replaced Kara's parents) and it is understandable why she would close herself off from Eliza and Jeremiah, while still appreciating their support.

The rest of human culture must have seemed something that was pushed onto her. Especially since she expected to live with Clark and take care of Clark and instead Clark left her with these new folks she didn't know; and now everyone is asking her to be human. This is a girl who lost everything: not just her parents and her friends, but her planet and her culture. She must have wanted to hang onto whatever she had of her culture as tightly as possible and reject human culture so that she can keep Krypton sacred.

Hence the need to reject school and just hang out with Clark and be Super. Clark after all is her only remaining connection to Krypton; and someone she knew (as much as you can know a baby) and loved in Kryton. She is a teen and probably doesn't understand that Clark here is not actually a kryptonian; but a human in Kryptonian skin and that they would have as much of a cultural gap as her and Eliza. And she would doing what her mother said she would do (be a hero) rather than whatever weird earth things her new guardians are asking her to do.

She was actively seeking and trying to save Krypton in her mind while rejecting Earth.

But Alex. Alex was the only thing that didn't remind her of Krypton or her loss--because she was someone new and just herself, a new relationship that Kara has never had; and was too self absorbed--like most teens are I suppose--to actually cater to Kara's loss.

As the only thing outside of Krypton, Alex probably intrigued Kara at the beginning. And, she could feel with Alex the way she couldn't feel with any of the others--Eliza, Jeremiah, even Clark and of course her high school folks. So, she probably paid a lot of attention to Alex, not the least because Alex was "saddled" with babysitting her through high school.

All that little competition, "try and keep up" and fighting with Alex was not I think Kara just being Kryptonian Kara; but Kara imitating Alex and trying to meet Alex in her own terms. It is what I have seen younger siblings do when they don't get the elder's attention (which is pretty much always). Or, at least, that is what my sister did. She used to just follow me around and then irritate me by doing stuff I hated and fight with me. And I was pretty much always trying to leave her behind (I was a horrible elder sister in my teens).

In that discussion with Kenny at the school cafeteria, it is pretty clear Kara wants Alex to notice her and appreciate her despite that talk about invisibility.

Hanging out with Kenny might have helped, but he was still a stranger.

And then, Kenny died, and Kara had Alex spending time with her and actually appreciating her for her abilities and finally trusting her to save her. Probably the first time Kara ever felt happy with her life. The first time ever she felt at home and as if she belonged after she lost Krypton and her parents.

That feeling must have continued and built on as the years progressed. Pretty solidly given the ending. :)

As for Alex: She was also feeling a loss (much less catastrophic than Kara but bad enough in Earth terms). She lost life as she knew it, her parent's attention (quite bad for a 14-year old) and then, her father whom she worshiped. And since the first two happened because of Kara why not blame her for all three. Easier to do than dealing with the loss and moving on.

Even without that, having take care of a younger sibling all the time is irritating for a teenager.

Having to then face rejection from friends she hoped to count on and getting support from the one whom she had been rejecting all this while may have shown her where her priorities should lie. (Not that she was all set against her; she did look out for Kara even before; by chasing away bullies at the lunch line). The Kenny episode showed her Kara is the one person she can always count on; and the one person with whose support she can get through anything.

Leading us to the closing scene with the Danvers on the balcony. I think that scene put a nice punctuation on the entire story by emphasizing both what they mean to each other and why they mean so much to each other.

It doesn't mean (and I know some folks are looking askance at this) that all their issues are resolved. It just means that they have remembered what they still have and are counting their blessings. The moment of silence, retreat and simpler times made them remember that the world has not still ended. And that they can still count on each other.

Doesn't mean the conversations are over either. They are just not ready to speak about things yet. But, that is okay. For the moment, silence is what is needed.
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