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Supergirl S3 E6 "Midvale": Discussion and Review

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Kiwi, how's the vacation going? You better have taken mom out to dinner :D

Title: Midvale
Directed By: Rob Greenlea
Air Date: November 13th, 2017 8pm The CW
Written By: Caitlin Parrish & Jess Kardos

Official Description: Kara and Alex head home to Midvale for a little R&R. While there, Kara recalls a painful memory of a childhood friend’s death and how that traumatic experience brought the Danver sisters closer together. Izabela Vidovic plays Young Kara and Olivia Nikkanen plays Young Alex in flashbacks.

Reoccurring Cast: Eliza Danvers (Helen Slater)
Guest Stars: Olivia Nikkanen (Teenaged Alex) | Izabela Vidovic (Teenaged Kara) | Josie (Eliana Jones) | Mr. Bernard (Mik Byskov) | Sheriff Collins (David Chisum)

Special Notes: This episode is going to be a big flashback to Midvale High. Heavy with amazing sister action, we'll get to see how the girls were getting through high school, including a scene with the girls fighting over bathroom time and a hair straightener. Kara and Alex will set aside their differences in popularity to uncover a mystery unfolding at their school that resulted in the death of a student (a character named Kenny) and the injury of another (named Mark), as well as a conspiracy held by their teacher, Mr. Bernard. Josie, Alex's friend who views Kara as an unpopular dork, holds a clue to Mr. Bernard's secret in a trade for a good recommendation letter to Berkley. What Mr. Bernard is up to and just how Kara and Alex will solve the case is still unfolding!
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Doing well this morning, wasn't I. I meant right, not left.


Bah ha ha ha I seriously spent a solid 30 minutes trying to make sure I had my directions correct. lol *high fives the Captain*
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So after wanting Superspeed used in last week's Episode 5 I was happy to see it used here in Episode 6, cheeky Kara speeding past Alex to use the bathroom first, cool little scene :) .
When she was running in the forest to find out who was killed, I actually yelled at the screen, "use your superspeed!"

1. I thought based on Season 1 she didn’t use her powers anymore. Obviously, she continued to use them.
. Yes, from the flashbacks that we saw in Season 1, my impression was that she was pretty much shut down, powerless ;). Also, in Ep. 1, Alex was completely stressed out over Kara using her powers because Alex knew she would get reamed by Eliza over it. But, perhaps after this Midvale mystery, Kara stopped using them again until 10 years later when Alex was in danger.


She appears to have said she would not do things. What she did was different. Of course, her foster parents told her what to do, and, as we all know, all teenagers do exactly what they are told. In retrospect, matters did not turn out as well as Superman presumably hoped.
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So after wanting Superspeed used in last week's Episode 5 I was happy to see it used here in Episode 6, cheeky Kara speeding past Alex to use the bathroom first, cool little scene :) .
When she was running in the forest to find out who was killed, I actually yelled at the screen, "use your superspeed!"

1. I thought based on Season 1 she didn’t use her powers anymore. Obviously, she continued to use them.
. Yes, from the flashbacks that we saw in Season 1, my impression was that she was pretty much shut down, powerless ;). Also, in Ep. 1, Alex was completely stressed out over Kara using her powers because Alex knew she would get reamed by Eliza over it. But, perhaps after this Midvale mystery, Kara stopped using them again until 10 years later when Alex was in danger.


Yes, when she told Alex, she would rather not use her powers than risk losing her told me she stopped using them at that point.
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Seriously?

Oh my God!

The showrunners killed Kenny!
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According to the attached Wikipedia article there are 6 places called Midvale in the U.S.A. but none are in California. Located in Idaho, Montana, Ohio, Utah (which evrafter knows well), Washington and West Virginia.


And I though Midvale was in Illinois...going back to the Silver Age comics era.
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"...but I feel at home with you." Oh, my little ticker. #AllTheFeels

"Midvale" extended promo:

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And I though Midvale was in Illinois...going back to the Silver Age comics era.


You may be right Robert, I'm reading the Silver Age Supergirl stories (Action Comics 252-284) currently but haven't come across where Midvale is located as yet. I do know the 1984 Supergirl movie (Side Note: Totally appropriate Helen Slater is in this episode titled 'Midvale') well though and Midvale in that was located in Illinois just below Chicago. Given that Helen's Kara Zor-El portrayal to me so closely resembled the Silver Age Supergirl it probably made sense they would set Midvale in Illinois to match the Silver Age Comics.

Gentlemen I do believe this version of Midvale will be in Northern California. National City is a stand in for Los Angeles like Metropolis is for New York City. As evidence if this I point to the earthquake in “human for a day”. Earthquakes happen on the west coast of the US. Also National City is clearly by the ocean as shown is severe episodes. Earthquake plus ocean equals west coast.

It sure looked like young Alex, Kara and thier classmates were at a beach by the ocean not a lake when Kara saved the mother and baby. When young Kara convinced Alex to go flying it looked to me like they flew over the ocean not a lake.

The sisters are driving rather than flying (by flying I mean Kara flying while carrying Alex) for pleasure and the bonding experience of road trip but to me it doesn’t make sense to do that for 2000 miles, which is the distance between LA and Chicago. A few hundred miles absolutely but 2000 takes 2-3 days. Kara told J’onn they would be away for a few days and a 2000 trip back and forth takes more than a few days.

Hopefully we’ll get some clues as to what part of the US this version of Midvale is in.
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I'm thinking that Alura's appearance is the DEO under the direction of Hank Henshaw trying to trick Kara into showing that she is indeed Kara Zor el.........and she in fact does just that.
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Agree, Brierrose. They were on the ocean in those initial flashback sequences in Midvale--the beach party and Daddy Danvers giving Kara her glasses. Put those with National City by the ocean, as seen when Kara diverted the missle. And then scenery of Vancouver, as seen in this week's trailers... fully fits the Northern California vibe.
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I’m thinking Santa Cruz, Carmel, or Monterey. All towns right on the ocean, enabling the kids to walk to the beach after school. And all 300-350 miles from LA/National City a nice but not too long road trip. I can’t quite tell from the preview but some of the trees look like redwoods. Redwoods do grow in Vancouver but the climate doesn’t allow them to grow to the gigantic proportions they do in California. I know this because Northern California school children learn learn about our native giant redwoods so I had a couple of elementary school projects about them. Attached is an article about Beacan Hill Park in Vancouver where California redwoods were planted 100 years ago.

Kara and Alex are my Northern California people.


I was thinking possibly even smaller, maybe Fort Bragg? Either way, gorgeous area from which to come:D
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Yes, he knows she exists, but it is not beyond him to try and capture her even after shaking hands with Jeremiah. I think that would be a way of capturing her, take her off "whatever game she has"...lol, by having her mom appear and then boom.....move in.
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Should be a great episode, maybe the best one of all season 3. I just want to know why the actress played young Kara and Alex in season one were recast.
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I'm thinking that Alura's appearance is the DEO under the direction of Hank Henshaw trying to trick Kara into showing that she is indeed Kara Zor el.........and she in fact does just that.


Interesting theory...and yet so plausible.
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OMG!!! Total Smallville reference to Chloe and the Wall of Weird!!!

That was AWESOME!!!:D
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My only critique was very little happened during present day to justify why Alex and Kara felt better in the end.


Yeah. Wonky writing, again. Originally they were suppose to be there a few days. Made it seem like they were there only overnight when Alex went to take the keys from Kara.

"You didn't have a problem with me driving yesterday."

"Well, yesterday getting in an accident didn't seem so bad."

But other than that, would have loved more modern day scenes because the ones we got were fantastic, with the car key scene being one of my fAvorites from 3 seasons.

P.s... Felt young Alex portrayed several of Chyler's Alex's mannerisms very well.
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A moment of silence for Kenny pls. The guy was legend
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I liked this episode even if there was not as much Melissa and Chyler (and adult Kara and Alex) in it as I would have liked.

And I liked that we got J'onn. I don't know why I am so pleased with this; but I am. I was not expecting it.

And we got an Eliza-Kara conversation.
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I my mind, I always thought that Kara was just pretending to be rubbish at maths and sciences. And I made up this head cannon that being she was sensitive to Alex’ resentment of her abilities, so knowing that Alex was attracted to science, Kara walked away from it, the way she walked away from her powers to protect them. So she would'nt be taking that away from Alex too. And I’m still sticking to that. It makes no sense that Kara would be bad at science with her Kryptonian background.


You know I like the reference to Kara being science/math whiz too. But, I would not like her having sacrificed science/math for Alex because that would be too much that Kara has sacrificed for Alex.

That makes their relationship unbalanced and unfair.

However, Kara may still find Earth science difficult just like how an experimental physicist or atomic physicist would find it difficult to work with the day and times of 3rd century BC science; say science in Aristotle's times. It's not just about knowing the basics. It's also about not having the right tools to prove something or work beyond something. Rediscovering the wheel is not probably fun for someone who can fly.

She may find it too backward to be interested in it. History/Reporting/Writing etc. on the other hand would be just as challenging as it would have been on her planet, so I can see her going for it. I was a bit surprised she was not more interested in Earth history; but I think she was still dealing with her loss and hating on Earth at the time.

The whole I want to live with Clark and be a superhero thing was amusing.

I was a bit surprised Alex needed help from someone on Math; Ah! Well, she chose genetics for a reason.
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Okay enough of that. My no. 1 favorite thing. I am so HAPPY to see that we finally get a confirmation of Kara’s Mathematical and Science abilities. Something that has always made zero sense to me considering Kara grew up to 12 yrs old in a society light years ahead of Earth.

I my mind, I always thought that Kara was just pretending to be rubbish at maths and sciences. And I made up this head cannon that being she was sensitive to Alex’ resentment of her abilities, so knowing that Alex was attracted to science, Kara walked away from it, the way she walked away from her powers to protect them. So she would'nt be taking that away from Alex too. And I’m still sticking to that. It makes no sense that Kara would be bad at science with her Kryptonian background.

I don’t think they’ve ever said Kara is “bad” at math and science just that she wasn’t interested in them. On Krypton she was a typical student and learned calculus at four but that doesn’t mean she was a math wiz on her home planet or that she particularly enjoyed math and science there. Kara already knew all the Earth math most people do and she’s just not interested in learning PHD level stuff. Given how competitive the girls were I don’t think Kara would’ve heald back in school.
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Question for you all:

Why did the sheriff try to kill Alex and Kara with the car? Sure, they were investigating, but at that point in the story he didn't know about the laptop, and Alex and Kara thought it was the teacher, so what was his motive? Surely more kids showing turning up dead would bring a lot more heat.


Ohhhh...good observation!!
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