Sanvers breakup confirmed

lolz GG for ships

Relating this back to the original topic, while I think the ending of Sanvers is for the better, the trend in CW DC shows is the writers really enjoy tearing romances apart for the sake of tearing it apart so they can make new ones, except on The Flash but I suspect that is because the comics state he's meant to be with Iris (though I guess that didn't stop them with Laurel). It's unwise in my opinion.

Quick survey, if you watch Arrow, do you still care who Oliver is with? I don't, not after changing a date almost every season.

I don't want Supergirl to go like that. In my opinion they found a good pairing with Mon-El for Kara, and the same probably goes with other characters. In my view Karamel should be permanent, not because I'm loyal to a ship but rather it's a good thing they have going and I'm done with changing. (But if you don't like Mon-El my point is she should find someone good and stick to it)

While Sanvers ends, Alex might as well find someone permanent. For me the continuous change in romance for the characters is not interesting and really cuts down the story.

Another effect of the CW writer's addiction to romance switch? It spawns ships. And ship wars.

The only reason sanvers is ending is because Floriana wants to leave. If she'd agreed to stay, I don't think this would be happening.

I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha

Yes I believe he said Monel would be married to Saturn sombody. He probably didn't care enough to get the whole name. Some people were talking on twitter that maybe they picked Saturn Girl because she had a more prominent role in the Legion. I don't know if that's true or not. Somebody with more comics knowledge maybe ya'll can tell me. They were discussing which Legion members they could introduce without it being to cluttered for lack of a better word.

I don't think the Monel marriage (if it's true) is a big surprise because he was married to someone in the comics. Not that they always go exactly by the comics but that seemed the direction they might go especially after one of the producers talked about things being different when Monel comes back. Of course, this could all be untrue and nobody knows anything. Lol

Per that Ken gentleman on twitter, we now know that Maggie and Alex have "an amicable breakup". I'll be sad to see sanvers go, but if Floriana wanted to leave then I think it was for the best.

What would you all like to see with Alex's love life going forwards? I'm hoping for some flirting in the crossover between her and Sara in the crossover, and maybe she might have something going on with Reign (or even Lena)?

I agree that breaking Sanvers up is the best option in this case. IMO I think it's better to end the relationship rather than continue with on 'offscreen' one.

I think I'd like to see Alex truly explore her somewhat newfound identity. The writers sort of just threw her into a serious relationship with the first woman she dated so I'd like it if she could date a bit and just have fun getting to know her newer self. Someone mentioned wanting to see a scene with Kara helping Alex to get ready for a date and now I just really want this to happen!

I'm not sure people should get their hopes up on a Sarah and Alex meeting.

Didn't another pap (Lindsay I think) tweet that Alex and Sara share scenes? If her info is correct I'd love to see some shameless flirting from Sara, a nervous/embarassed Alex and a highly amused Kara.

Well, I didn't like Sanvers since the coming out (which I identified with viscerally). So, I am happy if this is going to happen. And, I agree, I'd rather have Alex going out with others rather than have an off screen relationship.

I'd prefer the two of them to just be out and about the Season 2; with no drowning in one single ship to the detriment of every other relationship they have on show.

If they want to build other relationships build them over a long multi-season arc instead of just -4 episodes.

As far as wishing someone with Alex is concerned, I am looking forward to Alex-Lena interaction. Though I might not actually ship them. (I rarely ship people and my emotional investment even if I do like a pair is very tepid, so).

The only relationship I am really emotionally invested in and want to see on the show is Danvers Sisters; with the friendships and other ships with the rest of the cast thrown in.

I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha

I thought it was against the rules to wholesale make fun of shipper groups.

I'm fine with Alex dating around. I just wished that they hadn't gone around the route to actually get engaged and then break the engagement. I think they should have stuck with what Maggie hinted at in the beginning of their relationship, that Alex was too inexperienced.

I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha

Yes I believe he said Monel would be married to Saturn sombody. He probably didn't care enough to get the whole name. Some people were talking on twitter that maybe they picked Saturn Girl because she had a more prominent role in the Legion. I don't know if that's true or not. Somebody with more comics knowledge maybe ya'll can tell me. They were discussing which Legion members they could introduce without it being to cluttered for lack of a better word.

I don't think the Monel marriage (if it's true) is a big surprise because he was married to someone in the comics. Not that they always go exactly by the comics but that seemed the direction they might go especially after one of the producers talked about things being different when Monel comes back. Of course, this could all be untrue and nobody knows anything. Lol

There are so many different origins for Valor it's crazy.....but Saturn Girl at one point I think saves Mon-el, and I think she is actually a more interesting character than Shadow Lass.....and in the end there is a divorce anyway. So who knows if that is what happens here. I just think its crazy to get hyped up on ANY NEWS, that doesn't come from the show runners..... we know from our own experience that there are scenes that we see BTS stuff from, or are even in the trailers that don't end up in the 41 minute episode. I'm just going to chill and look forward to all of it. I'm just not emotionally involved in any of the ships so whatever happens to them is fine.

Floriana Lima's choice gave the producers only three options with regard to Alex/Maggie.
1) Maggie dies, IMO this one was never seriously on the table and I'm glad we got confirmation that it won't happen. Personally I didn't want to see Alex as a widow.
2) The unseen spouse, this could have worked but only as a short term solution. Maggie was too much in the action last season to suddenly not be, the writers would have constantly come up with reasons for her absence.
3) They break up, this seems the best solution Alex will be understandably sad but get over Maggie in due course.

I think it will be a missed opportunity if Sara doesn't flirt with Alex. If the TV gods grant my wish there will be a sparing scene that turns to flirting. Alex and Sara are equally matched as fighters and both could easily see combat as turn on. I don't want anything but harmless flirting perhaps a kiss, it would give Alex a confidence boost. Later yah let's see Alex dating.

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

I think it will be a missed opportunity if Sara doesn't flirt with Alex. If the TV gods grant my wish there will be a sparingly scene that turns to flirting. Alex and Sara are equally matched as fighters and both coud easily see combat as turn on. I don't want anything but harmless flirting perhaps a kiss, it would give Alex a confidence boost. Later yah let's see Alex dating.

I would LOVE to see a sparing scene between them. I'm sure a friendly spar would produce some sort of sexual tension.

Floriana Lima's choice gave the producers only three options with regard to Alex/Maggie.
1) Maggie dies, IMO this one was never seriously on the table and I'm glad we got confirmation that it won't happen. Personally I didn't want to see Alex as a widow.
2) The unseen spouse, this could have worked but only as a short term solution. Maggie was too much in the action last season to suddenly not be, the writers would have constantly come up with reasons for her absence.
3) They break up, this seems the best solution Alex will be understandably sad but get over Maggie in due course.

I think it will be a missed opponent ortunity if Sara doesn't flirt with Alex. If the TV gods grant my wish there will be a sparing scene that turns to flirting. Alex and Sara are equally matched as fighters and both could easily see combat as turn on. I don't want anything but harmless flirting perhaps a kiss, it would give Alex a confidence boost. Later yah let's see Alex dating.

Maggie dying would have meant the end of the show. After the clexa debacle, they wouldn't dare kill off another lesbian.

I would LOOOVE to see Sara and Alex flirt. Alex would be such a cute flustered gayby. And of course they're both ridiculously attractive.....

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

IN TOTAL AGREEMENT....

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

IN TOTAL AGREEMENT....

Well, Saturn Girl was just cast, so that's that confirmed. Karamel is dead in the water for now.

Well, can't say that I'm not a little relieved to see Maggie go. I'm glad that Alex will be reverting back to her old supportive self in S1 after her OOC storylines in S2. Having her casually dating and not in a serious relationship is also ok. As long as her scenes mesh well and are connected to Kara's vs the disjointed mess in S2.

Saturn Girl is a founding member of the Legion and her appearance on the show should be appreciated not just for shipping reasons.

It's funny to see all the Mon-El detractors wholeheartedly embracing Saturn Girl just out of spite (I mean, at least like her for the right reasons). But watch how fast they'll turn on the character/actress if it is somehow revealed that she's actually responsible for getting Karamel back together. lol

Well, can't say that I'm not a little relieved to see Maggie go. I'm glad that Alex will be reverting back to her old supportive self in S1 after her OOC storylines in S2. Having her casually dating and not in a serious relationship is also ok. As long as her scenes mesh well and are connected to Kara's vs the disjointed mess in S2.

Saturn Girl is a founding member of the Legion and her appearance on the show should be appreciated not just for shipping reasons.

It's funny to see all the Mon-El detractors wholeheartedly embracing Saturn Girl just out of spite (I mean, at least like her for the right reasons). But watch how fast they'll turn on the character/actress if it is somehow revealed that she's actually responsible for getting Karamel back together. lol

I don't think anyone actually expects karamel to stay broken up. I sure don't. The producers and execs love it in spite of the backlash, as well as the president. :eyeroll:

There you go generalizing again. Shocker. In any case, #saturnvalorrise

Here is the thing there is no backlash. The only backlash there is from SC fandom and sanvers fandom. We all know what the reason is for that. And its baseless hating. Rest like this ship actually, its no accident the ship was already embraced by teen choice award and was nominated as best ship. People love them. Even they said it on the Blu-Ray commentary on Supergirl Lives. They see the huge love for them too.

Well, can't say that I'm not a little relieved to see Maggie go. I'm glad that Alex will be reverting back to her old supportive self in S1 after her OOC storylines in S2. Having her casually dating and not in a serious relationship is also ok. As long as her scenes mesh well and are connected to Kara's vs the disjointed mess in S2.

Saturn Girl is a founding member of the Legion and her appearance on the show should be appreciated not just for shipping reasons.

It's funny to see all the Mon-El detractors wholeheartedly embracing Saturn Girl just out of spite (I mean, at least like her for the right reasons). But watch how fast they'll turn on the character/actress if it is somehow revealed that she's actually responsible for getting Karamel back together. lol

I don't think anyone actually expects karamel to stay broken up. I sure don't. The producers and execs love it in spite of the backlash, as well as the president. :eyeroll:

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

IN TOTAL AGREEMENT....

Well, Saturn Girl was just cast, so that's that confirmed. Karamel is dead in the water for now.

And that will be welcome news if people will finally move on with the hate. Some peace and quiet this season would be much appreciated.

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

IN TOTAL AGREEMENT....

Well, Saturn Girl was just cast, so that's that confirmed. Karamel is dead in the water for now.

And that will be welcome news if people will finally move on with the hate. Some peace and quiet this season would be much appreciated.

Agreed.

I'm not really heavily into either Sanvers or Karamel, though I liked both relationships and would be fine with them continuing. Clearly Sanvers will not be, and that's OK too. I am wondering if the cause of the breakup will be triggered by the appearance of Maggie's dad. Perhaps they have a reconciliation and she subsequently returns to Nebraska to help him in some way? just a thought. I agree that there are lots of possibilities for Alex to have other relationships, but I hope that since her sexuality is now established they are minor scenes that reiterate that (possibly in a humorous way), rather than a major arc. And perhaps she and Maggie will someday get back together; also OK by me.

As far as Karamel, the chemistry was off the charts so regardless of Mon-El's situation when he returns, any interaction with Kara will be very interesting. Again, I hope it is subtext and not a major arc. Of the two, I guess I'd most enjoy seeing Kara and Mon-El get back together in the long term.

Mostly I'm looking forward to a great season which appears to have lots of promise.

The fandom needs more like you

The producers and execs love it in spite of the backlash, as well as the president. :eyeroll:

Yeah, I can see how the way this is unfortunately worded may agitate the Karamel shippers. I mean, if I said someone's ship is hated by lots of fans no wonder it's ending/didn't happen (with accompanying smiley), I'm sure they'll understandably come to their ship's defense likewise. I think it would really be helpful if we follow this simple rule: Ship (or don't) whomever you like but don't put down those who ship others. Please, let's all be mindful of our words and not take potshots at each other and it should hopefully go a long way in keeping the peace.

While I'm not much of a shipper myself (I even got several ship names wrong in one of my previous posts so apologies if I butchered yours), I'm down for whatever/whoever makes Kara happy. And if that's Mon-El and having them reunited, then so be it. Who really wants to watch a dark/moody Kara for 22-23 episodes? I know I for one can only tolerate the first few and look forward to having happy Kara back (and the show to return to its light-heartedness as it should be).

The TPTB know how rare it is to actually find leads that have off-the-charts chemistry on-screen and actually like each other off-screen as well (looking at you Moonlighting and Castle -- two shows whose co-stars have chemistry up the wazoo on film but hate each other in real life which doesn't make for a good working environment). To be able to capture this "lightning in a bottle", once in a blue moon casting jackpot, they'd be fools not to welcome/embrace it.

Kinda disappointed if Karamel is to end, but it was a good run.

What the show needs is a sustainable romance for Kara in the long run. I don't mind who. Not my top pick because I don't see it happening, but if Lena and Kara are gay after all, go for it. Better be this season though. This cannot become Arrow's situation.

The Flash has it down pat so far with Iris and Barry.