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Many of us myself included want Supergirl to face a physical threat in the same way Flash faced Zoom in season two and think Reign is going to be that threat.

@kdogg87 said something in the Mid-season Finale Updates thread regarding villains being a threat to Supergirl that I found interesting and deserving of its own thread.

“I think the issue is more that many feel she hasn’t faced a true threat the way her male peers have. Part of it’s because she’s Kryptonian. Part of it is because having a male villain defeat Supergirl is such a way would become reminiscent of domestic violence. But having the enemy be a female villain goes a long ways towards nullifying that concern.”

I can’t find it now but I read somewhere that when a focus group watched the “pilot” some people were uncomfortable with Supergirl being beaten up by Vartox. We know that Supergirl has fought plenty of male villains but the season two big bads were Lillian and Rhea. In season one Astra was supposed to be the big bad but we wound up with another female Indigo and Non, who was male but the fights between Supergirl and Non weren’t fistfights. In “for the girl who has everything” Supergirl beat the crap out of Non for putting the black mercy on her but he didn’t fight back in any meaningful way. In their final showdown Supergirl beat Non in a heatvision battle, not a fist fight. I know on Flash Barry has fought female meta-humans but the big bads have been male. I don’t watch Arrow so correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t all the big bads been male.

Would the audience be too uncomfortable seeing Supergirl being beaten up by a male villain in the same way we’re anticipating Reign will? What about Oliver or Barry beating up a female big bad? Is it possible for the main heroes to have a big bad of the opposite sex?
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There have been some male humanoid villains who have gotten their swipes in at Supergirl, in a direct physical means, ie., Non, the villain in S01E01 and Superman. I believe that most of the other male villains have taken on some type of alien physical form that would create a distinction from them being a human man. But, even the humanoid male villains that fought SG didn't really draw blood and none went to the extent of physical damage that Reign did. I don't know if that has been a deliberate choice on the producers part or, just how it has played out. But, I have a tendency to believe that they are cognitive of the male/female dynamic regarding how much and to what extent the result of a violent battle is depicted.

Regarding the number of female villains on the show, perhaps it has more to do with the idea that the audience is just not used to seeing very many physically/intellectually strong women in such positions. Women make up 50% of the population therefore, they should be represented in more of these roles in entertainment; and it would make sense that, like men, not all have good intentions in gaining and wielding power. SG seems to try to make sure that that representation exists so, it it is more noticeable.

...a love triangle is such a tired trope. Really, I have seen it in almost every show I have watched; but never in real life. and that is my main objection with respect to making Saturn Girl a villain.
I agree. And after watching the Hallmark Channel during the holidays for a month, I'm so over love triangles :D
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There have been some male humanoid villains who have gotten their swipes in at Supergirl, in a direct physical means, ie., Non, the villain in S01E01 and Superman. I believe that most of the other male villains have taken on some type of alien physical form that would create a distinction from them being a human man. But, even the humanoid male villains that fought SG didn't really draw blood and none went to the extent of physical damage that Reign did. I don't know if that has been a deliberate choice on the producers part or, just how it has played out.

Yeah but none of the other female villains drew that much blood either. Kara doesn't bleed that much. I can only recall seeing her bleed on three other occasions: when Kara lost her powers for the first time and cut herself on a piece of broken glass (s1e6), when Siobhan did her Banshee scream and one of Kara's ears bled (s1e18), and that time Lillian forced Kara to solar flare, then slapped her hard enough to cut Kara's lip (s2e7). But all of these are relatively small cuts, that heal quickly. Nothing like what Reign has done.
Kara has suffered worse, she has been knocked unconscious, electrocuted, broke an arm , had her life force sucked out of her, been put into a weird plant induced coma; but none of these left a visible wound, burn, scar, or bruise.
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I haven't really noticed if a male villain or a female villain did more damage to Supergirl....just never crossed my mind. Not really understanding why it matters.
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I haven't really noticed if a male villain or a female villain did more damage to Supergirl....just never crossed my mind. Not really understanding why it matters.
It doesn't really matter in the overall quality or content of the show. It's just a discussion on a topic that stems from the show itself.
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