By now, if you are an active member in the Supergirl fandom community, you are undoubtedly aware that there is a lot going on with the Supergirl fan base. Division, attacks, collusion, planning, tweeting, posting, retaliation and so on. There is much that is dragging our fandom's reputation through the mud.
I want to give you a place where you all can come and discuss what is going on but I am going to set up some additional ground rules for this thread to help keep things more friendly because this could get out of hand very fast.
FIRST: There is a very easy tendency to make claims against certain groups that will generalize that group to a particular opinion. Please don't do this. For example: (Olicity "Oliver and Felicity shippers" all hate Laurel). That is clearly not true and no one could ever possibly know that. Its a sweeping generalization that causes those that are Olicity members who don't hate Laurel to become defensive. So please don't use sweeping generalizations in your observations.
SECOND: As much as possible, temper your emotions and take a moment to breathe before responding. We are discussing complex, difficult issues here. Issues that are reflected in the real world and have very real consequences. We are discussing topics here that have deep personal connections to a wide variety of people. You'll never know if your comment, however innocent you may feel it is, actually affects someone on the other side of the screen. So let's take a moment to note that these issues are very VERY complex and require care when brought up in conversation. Breathe and above all, be respectful.
FINALLY: My scrutiny meter on these posts is going to be at a maximum on this. If I feel, for whatever reason, that a post is in anyway hurtful, derogatory or attacking I am just going to delete it. I'll start tossing posts like Kobe hits three pointers (I'm not a basketball guy I have no idea if that analogy makes sense).
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- Supergirl General Discussion
- Friday, 14 July 2017
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seems someone emailed Melissa's team for an apology. Here is the statement from her team
This really shouldn't have been done. This isn't even an official statement from Melissa and her team. This person (whoever they are) just made the situation much worse.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
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- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 61
seems someone emailed Melissa's team for an apology. Here is the statement from her team
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 62
See when this type of stuff happens, Jeremy would need to be very brave indeed to do what he did
This type of stuff happens regardless of what's happening in the fandom. Jeremy has gotten a bunch of gross hate just for being an ally and activist for the LGBT community. This hate isn't completely isolated to fandom issues, so let's not act like it is.
There was nothing brave about what was done. Causing unintentional hurt wasn't brave. Fans sending hate in retaliation isn't brave.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 63
See when this type of stuff happens, Jeremy would need to be very brave indeed to do what he did
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 64
It was on Mel's latest Instagram post. Guess someone deleted it But i do see the reply to it there Where its mentioned. This is pretty insane. Thank god it got deleted though
Ok that's good it got deleted. That either means it was reported and removed or the account deleted it themselves. If you (or anyone here) ever sees hate directed at the cast, especially to this degree, please notify us in this thread. The more people we can get to report these accounts, the better.
If its the one I think it is...the account was found to be in violation.
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 65
It was on Mel's latest Instagram post. Guess someone deleted it But i do see the reply to it there Where its mentioned. This is pretty insane. Thank god it got deleted though
Ok that's good it got deleted. That either means it was reported and removed or the account deleted it themselves. If you (or anyone here) ever sees hate directed at the cast, especially to this degree, please notify us in this thread. The more people we can get to report these accounts, the better.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 66
Now these SC are sending Death threats to Jeremy and Mel. Rahul was not only right about them. He actually downplayed them. In reality they are worse. Death threats is some serious stuff. Whats wrong with some of these
SCsome of them are totally messed up
I haven't seen any death threats. Could you please tell us the accounts (twitter handles, instagram accounts) doing that so we can report them. Some links would be great, thanks.
I've said my piece on this topic, so I'm done with it. You either agree or you don't. But I do agree with DraftingDrafter. If you find death threats to any of the cast on twitter, instagram, wherever, please share it here, along with a URL, so we can report it. Whether you are upset about this situation or not, personal threats towards the cast are never warranted.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 67
Now these SC are sending Death threats to Jeremy and Mel. Rahul was not only right about them. He actually downplayed them. In reality they are worse. Death threats is some serious stuff. Whats wrong with some of these
SC
I haven't seen any death threats. Could you please tell us the accounts (twitter handles, instagram accounts) doing that so we can report them. Some links would be great, thanks.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 68
Jeremy wouldn't have said this if some Supercorp shippers weren't bullies and they proved how much they are bullies after the incident.
Kara and Lena's relationship is not LGBT rep. Fans making it a fanon relationship doesn't change that and if the actors and the show weren't constantly being attacked by these fanon shippers who want to make this canon, Jeremy wouldn't even know about them nor would he firmly state that they were only friends.
All this is another episode of online bullying in the Supergirl fandom.
Jeremy shouldn't have said it period. SC has nothing to do with the show, it's non-canon but he chose to include it in his recap. Those shippers were deliberately targeted and Jeremy knew there would be backlash.
You don't get to decide what is or isn't LGBT rep for my community. We have so little rep that we have to create our own, that's how SC came to be. I've been around fandoms for a while now, so while I knew better than to invest in a non-canon ship, young wlw girls did not. And those are the shippers that are upset about it, cause they just wanted to ship their ship in peace. But bc SC gained a bad rep the cast took it out on the entire SC fandom, which was a poor move on their part.
And here I am, yet again, repeating myself that this situation wasn't because he said they were friends. This has everything to do with how the cast approached the topic of SC, not what was said per se.
"Be wise, be strong and always be true to yourself." - Alura Zor-El to Kara Zor-El
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 69
Melissa called Jeremy brave? I like her even more now. Truly well done there MB.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 70
I just saw the video once again. While I may see no harm, that does not dismiss others' position that it was hurtful and insensitive. IMO, this was spur of the moment and not intended to hurt anyone. I hope we all have the grace forgiving their making a mistake by accidentally insulting some groups. So let's forgive, move on, and not subject them recriminations.
Argo
Argo
A journey of 1,000 KM, begins with one step.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 71
not only is this horse dead, but we've made burgers and put ketchup on this sucker at this point.
Excuse us for speaking out about an incident that deeply, deeply hurt the LGBT section of the fandom. Jeremy has and he seems genuinely sorry, and I for one accept that apology. That doesn't change the fact that A) It happened, B) It echoes what several of the more nasty fans have said to us, and C) Melissa has not apologized when she was the one who called Jeremy 'brave' for what he did.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 72
No arguing any longer, but speaking about an impact of this incident, for sometime I don't think I feel like looking at Melissa or Jeremy's social media anymore because everytime I do I see those angry comments plastered everywhere and it hurts. They don't deserve this and I've no clue how the fandom degraded thus over a year. When I first became a fan I had never seen this coming.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 73
not only is this horse dead, but we've made burgers and put ketchup on this sucker at this point.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 74
Yeah i did and i and many others still see nothing wrong in what Jeremy did
SC are friends and telling it like it is like TVD cast did with Damon and Bonnie is nothing wrong with that at all
There was no attack at all from Jeremy or any of the cast. They set the record straight about 2 friends on the show. Thats it.
They never addressed Sanvers. Its like SC shippers are Totally forgetting the real LGBT couple on the show. Yet some of the SC fandom still say its an attack at LGBT. That is what makes this whole thing so weird and quite frankly ridiculous from the SC.
Even Katie laughed at that song as well so Why are they only hating on Jeremy and Mel now. The loud small and toxic part of SC fandom is the most obscure thing i witnessed ever in any fandom of any show.
Did you read any of our explanations for why we're upset or are you just gonna turn a blind eye?
It's not what was said, it's how it was said. Jeremy was proud of himself for 'debunking' a ship that's not even canon in the first place, a ship that people support because it has meaning for them, and Mel called that 'brave'. You are a prime example of why that's a problem; lesbian shippers are regularly ridiculed and attacked, and the cast has now joined in on that. I really don't know how else to explain it.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 75
There was no attack at all from Jeremy or any of the cast. They set the record straight about 2 friends on the show. Thats it.
They never addressed Sanvers. Its like SC shippers are Totally forgetting the real LGBT couple on the show. Yet some of the SC fandom still say its an attack at LGBT. That is what makes this whole thing so weird and quite frankly ridiculous from the SC.
Even Katie laughed at that song as well so Why are they only hating on Jeremy and Mel now. The loud small and toxic part of SC fandom is the most obscure thing i witnessed ever in any fandom of any show.
Did you read any of our explanations for why we're upset or are you just gonna turn a blind eye?
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 76
Ha! Okay. 
I realise now that I replied too early. Because what I said can be easily summed up by what DraftingDrafter said.
FedGuy, I had not read your second post in this thread when I replied (I thought I had come to the end of the thread). In any case, I am really sorry anyone anywhere has to go through or experience hate.
And, the lack of rep can be horrible too.
Argo: Thanks for your supportive comment earlier. I have tried to explain, in the comment below yours (if you sort by Latest), why it was painful to me. Others may have other reasons.
To end: I do love the cast. I know they make mistakes. It is human. I am happy they do apologise when they feel that they have done something wrong. I don't think they should be vilified (or anyone should be). I hope I will have the courage to always apologise when I make mistakes too (however, inadvertent).
I realise now that I replied too early. Because what I said can be easily summed up by what DraftingDrafter said. FedGuy, I had not read your second post in this thread when I replied (I thought I had come to the end of the thread). In any case, I am really sorry anyone anywhere has to go through or experience hate.
And, the lack of rep can be horrible too.Argo: Thanks for your supportive comment earlier. I have tried to explain, in the comment below yours (if you sort by Latest), why it was painful to me. Others may have other reasons.
To end: I do love the cast. I know they make mistakes. It is human. I am happy they do apologise when they feel that they have done something wrong. I don't think they should be vilified (or anyone should be). I hope I will have the courage to always apologise when I make mistakes too (however, inadvertent).
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 77
Call me a dunderhead. I saw these apologies from Jermey Jordan about an improptue song of last year's summary. As well as, I noted criticism of Melissa for being not sensitive to lesbian feelings. I saw the video and listened to the song and I heard nothing homophobic about about it. They just sang that Kara and Lena are friends.
Am I missing something here? Please feel free to let me know if I am missing something. I will not take offense.
Argo
The problem is not what was said, it's HOW it was said. If Jeremy had said "oh, they're just friends" and moved on, that would have been fine. He's right. But instead he screamed it like five times and the others laughed, and later he proudly said he 'debunked' supercorp and Mel called him brave for it. SC shippers get bashed and harassed daily, and now the cast is ridiculing us too.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 78
To add onto what I said (as a response to what Fedguy said). I get you.
However, I don't think it is about feeling the victim.
I don't think we (LGBT folks) are culturally yet at a place where we could laugh at jokes made about us. It is the reaction of the strong (not necessarily physically or in numbers)...but folks who are sure of their place in the world. folks self-assured enough to ignore such. and hopefully, we will be there some day. But, right now, many of us are still at a place where we doubt ourselves.. near constantly. We wonder whether we really are an aberration. We wonder what our fate would be if tomorrow say the majority decided that all homosexuals should be jailed or killed (like it happened in India in 2013 or it is happening in Chechnya now). It is an incredibly vulnerable position to be in (and, in my opinion, same is the case for all minorities; but we LGBT end up being minorities within those minorities).
So, yeah.. we (some of us, may be not all) are a bit touchy... Because we are not yet at a place where we are like... "Hell! The majority can do whatever they want; ignore us... laugh at us... We are not going to care... We are going to party." Or, may be say "that is a very good joke! that is funny!" Though it'd be fun to be there and to be able to laugh at ourselves too.
And again, I am speaking from a non-western POV. Supergirl is watched all over the world. And.. LGBT folks are all over the world too.
However, I don't think it is about feeling the victim.
I don't think we (LGBT folks) are culturally yet at a place where we could laugh at jokes made about us. It is the reaction of the strong (not necessarily physically or in numbers)...but folks who are sure of their place in the world. folks self-assured enough to ignore such. and hopefully, we will be there some day. But, right now, many of us are still at a place where we doubt ourselves.. near constantly. We wonder whether we really are an aberration. We wonder what our fate would be if tomorrow say the majority decided that all homosexuals should be jailed or killed (like it happened in India in 2013 or it is happening in Chechnya now). It is an incredibly vulnerable position to be in (and, in my opinion, same is the case for all minorities; but we LGBT end up being minorities within those minorities).
So, yeah.. we (some of us, may be not all) are a bit touchy... Because we are not yet at a place where we are like... "Hell! The majority can do whatever they want; ignore us... laugh at us... We are not going to care... We are going to party." Or, may be say "that is a very good joke! that is funny!"
Though it'd be fun to be there and to be able to laugh at ourselves too.And again, I am speaking from a non-western POV. Supergirl is watched all over the world. And.. LGBT folks are all over the world too.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 79
Call me a dunderhead. I saw these apologies from Jermey Jordan about an improptue song of last year's summary. As well as, I noted criticism of Melissa for being not sensitive to lesbian feelings. I saw the video and listened to the song and I heard nothing homophobic about about it. They just sang that Kara and Lena are friends.
Am I missing something here? Please feel free to let me know if I am missing something. I will not take offense.
Argo
Am I missing something here? Please feel free to let me know if I am missing something. I will not take offense.
Argo
A journey of 1,000 KM, begins with one step.
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