The Midvale episode doesn't line up.

J’onn would definitely know what Alura looked like. At this point, J’onn is running the DEO in the guise of Hank Henshaw. As DEO director, he has access to Fort Rozz’s records and Kara’s spaceship. As we saw in the pilot, Kara’s ship contained a holographic message from Alura to Kara. J’onn has certainly watched that recording. Also, Fort Rozz’s records would include pictures of Alura’s twin sister Astra, who was a prisoner on Fort Rozz. The records might also include information from the prisoners' trials, which could include images of the judge who put them there: Alura.

Jeremiah's telescope was probably his own. He was probably an amateur astronomer; that is what I thought anyways at the time.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

It's now a known fact that Erica used Margot Kidder's accent. Three Lois Lane easter eggs right there. (the other was the name of the 50's actress)

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

J'onn is not a human being, and may not have seen this as an issue. I didn't.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

J'onn is not a human being, and may not have seen this as an issue. I didn't.

You didn't see showing a young girl her mother, a mother that she saw die when her entire world exploded at the age of 12 and then making her think that her mother was alive in front of her at the age of 15....only to tell her, oooops sorry honey I have one of those faces was not an issue? Seriously?

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

J'onn is not a human being, and may not have seen this as an issue. I didn't.

You didn't see showing a young girl her mother, a mother that she saw die when her entire world exploded at the age of 12 and then making her think that her mother was alive in front of her at the age of 15....only to tell her, oooops sorry honey I have one of those faces was not an issue? Seriously?

It may well be an issue for Kara and J'onn. It should not be an issue for the show writers.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

J'onn is not a human being, and may not have seen this as an issue. I didn't.

You didn't see showing a young girl her mother, a mother that she saw die when her entire world exploded at the age of 12 and then making her think that her mother was alive in front of her at the age of 15....only to tell her, oooops sorry honey I have one of those faces was not an issue? Seriously?

It may well be an issue for Kara and J'onn. It should not be an issue for the show writers.

What does that even mean? If the show writers had taken a second to see how that would be a problem for "any 15 year old" that within the last 3 years has watched their entire life explode and then you put their mother in front of them....then it should have been an issue for the writers.

I THINK Jeremiah's telescope was a bit bigger? But, just going off memory on that answer. So, I'm thinking SSAV is correct.

Also, who was it on here who pointed out just how cruel was it that J'onn shifted into a young teen's "recently" dead mother? To THAT I say, "EXACTLY!" I mean, I GET that J'onn was trying to protect Kara at all costs. But, that was a bit out of bounds.

That was me, and I hated that part....that was horrible.

J'onn has shown he's not averse to going to extremes to accomplish things he thinks are necessary. And the prospect of a 15-year-old trying to be a public superhero when she can't keep from tearing tables apart or blasting trees with her heat vision when she gets angry or scared sounds like a really bad idea.

(But that NEVER happens to teenagers, right?)

Not cool writing on the part of the writers.....not at all. She didn't need to be shocked like that to get the point across.

100% agree. Plain cruel. Traumatizing, really. Can you imagine one of our student's parents passing away, let along the whole planet, and someone comes in disguised as mom?

WITH that said, though...I DID like that she had a solid southern accent

She sounded normal to me....

J'onn is not a human being, and may not have seen this as an issue. I didn't.

You didn't see showing a young girl her mother, a mother that she saw die when her entire world exploded at the age of 12 and then making her think that her mother was alive in front of her at the age of 15....only to tell her, oooops sorry honey I have one of those faces was not an issue? Seriously?

It may well be an issue for Kara and J'onn. It should not be an issue for the show writers.

What does that even mean? If the show writers had taken a second to see how that would be a problem for "any 15 year old" that within the last 3 years has watched their entire life explode and then you put their mother in front of them....then it should have been an issue for the writers.

I thought using Alura as the agent was one of the weaker points of that episode. With the memories of Jeremiah being taken by the DEO and presumed dead surely still fresh on Kara's mind, any government agent showing up on her doorstep to talk to her about getting involved would have had a big impact on her. It didn't need to be Alura. And part of a writer's job is to know their characters; their motivations, fears, hopes. What they want (the writers) should be in line with the characters. It's not an either-or situation.

It doesn't matter that J'onn isn't human. He knows exactly what it's like to lose what Kara lost. I can't imagine that he would want to face a similar situation at over 100 years old, so why would he want a 15 year old young lady to face it?

"What does that even mean? If the show writers had taken a second to see how that would be a problem for "any 15 year old" that within the last 3 years has watched their entire life explode and then you put their mother in front of them....then it should have been an issue for the writers. I thought using Alura as the agent was one of the weaker points of that episode. With the memories of Jeremiah being taken by the DEO and presumed dead surely still fresh on Kara's mind, any government agent showing up on her doorstep to talk to her about getting involved would have had a big impact on her. It didn't need to be Alura. And part of a writer's job is to know their characters; their motivations, fears, hopes. What they want (the writers) should be in line with the characters. It's not an either-or situation.

It doesn't matter that J'onn isn't human. He knows exactly what it's like to lose what Kara lost. I can't imagine that he would want to face a similar situation at over 100 years old, so why would he want a 15 year old young lady to face it?"

One point: Kara didn't "have memories" of Jeremiah being taken off by the DEO. In the first season it's clear she and Alex were hustled of to their rooms - "And Kara, Don't you dare use your super hearing!" - when the real Hank Henshaw and the DEO showed up at their house and threatened to take Kara. That's when Jeremiah made his deal with them to share his data about Superman and work with the DEO.

According to lines from other episodes, it was about a year later Jeremiah "died" in Peru, while the DEO apparently told Eliza he was killed in a plane crash.

Neither Kara nor Alex knew anything about the DEO until Alex was recruited, by J'onn (disguised as Hank) during her "party girl" phase in grad school.

Jeremiah was clearly a good, surrogate parent to Kara for a brief time, but she didn't have nearly the connection to him that Alex (his biological daughter) did for most of her childhood. Her greatest connection as a child was most certainly with the parents who raised her up to 12-13 before Krypton exploded, and all her interactions with her "Earth Family" reflect that - using Eliza's first name, the prickly teenaged relationship with Alex that still flares up in adulthood, etc.

This doesn't mean she didn't come to "love" them, in a different way, but it does explain why a telepath with an insight into family connections would have used her mothers image and made a few subtle "modifications" to reinforce the idea of "she looks like Mom; but not ... exactly", to get her to stop and think about what problems her actions could cause for others, when she wouldn't listen to "these cuturally underdeveloped Earthings"., something she might have thought, but been too polite to say.

Remember, the DEO knew about her already, and J'onn was probably trying to keep others in the government from trying to recruit or co-opt her by having "Hank Henshaw" be able to tell them "the DEO is handling the matter".

Not to mention what would have happened if someone less thoughtful of Kara's well-being than Kenny Lee had found out and "outed" her. She would have had to move to the Fortress of Solitude instead of Metropolis with Clark to get away from 24/7 media and government attention.

I still contend J'onn made a reasonable choice. A teenager - even a superpowered one - needs time to emotionally and mentally mature before they ought to be making huge life choices. There is a reason people can't normally move out of a parent or guardan's house or join the military before the end of their teen years.

When trying to control the impulses of a teen who can lift a bus and fly away from home instead of run away; you have to get very creative.

One point: Kara didn't "have memories" of Jeremiah being taken off by the DEO. In the first season it's clear she and Alex were hustled of to their rooms - "And Kara, Don't you dare use your super hearing!" - when the real Hank Henshaw and the DEO showed up at their house and threatened to take Kara. That's when Jeremiah made his deal with them to share his data about Superman and work with the DEO.

According to lines from other episodes, it was about a year later Jeremiah "died" in Peru, while the DEO apparently told Eliza he was killed in a plane crash.

Neither Kara nor Alex knew anything about the DEO until Alex was recruited, by J'onn (disguised as Hank) during her "party girl" phase in grad school.

Jeremiah was clearly a good, surrogate parent to Kara for a brief time, but she didn't have nearly the connection to him that Alex (his biological daughter) did for most of her childhood. Her greatest connection as a child was most certainly with the parents who raised her up to 12-13 before Krypton exploded, and all her interactions with her "Earth Family" reflect that - using Eliza's first name, the prickly teenaged relationship with Alex that still flares up in adulthood, etc.

This doesn't mean she didn't come to "love" them, in a different way, but it does explain why a telepath with an insight into family connections would have used her mothers image and made a few subtle "modifications" to reinforce the idea of "she looks like Mom; but not ... exactly", to get her to stop and think about what problems her actions could cause for others, when she wouldn't listen to "these cuturally underdeveloped Earthings"., something she might have thought, but been too polite to say.

Remember, the DEO knew about her already, and J'onn was probably trying to keep others in the government from trying to recruit or co-opt her by having "Hank Henshaw" be able to tell them "the DEO is handling the matter".

Not to mention what would have happened if someone less thoughtful of Kara's well-being than Kenny Lee had found out and "outed" her. She would have had to move to the Fortress of Solitude instead of Metropolis with Clark to get away from 24/7 media and government attention.

I still contend J'onn made a reasonable choice. A teenager - even a superpowered one - needs time to emotionally and mentally mature before they ought to be making huge life choices. There is a reason people can't normally move out of a parent or guardan's house or join the military before the end of their teen years.

When trying to control the impulses of a teen who can lift a bus and fly away from home instead of run away; you have to get very creative.

I still think it was cruel for J’onn to impersonate Alura but you bring up some valid points. I get that the adults in her life thought it was better for Kara to be a “normal” teen especially after Jeremiah’s “death. In my mind what happened to Jeremiah cause Clark to back out if Kara’s life for her safety but he was still in contact with her enough that she knew how to get in touch with his hacker friend.

I get that J’onn couldn’t have shown up as the “dead” Henshaw. Some have suggested Clark should have talked with her but that would have presented its own problems. It could have come out that it really wasn’t him.

In my opinion J’onn being a a random female FBI agent would have achieved the same goal. He could have put a scare into Kara by reinforcing what Eliza said about Alex getting hurt and also mentioned that she needed to lay low because other government agencies would love to take her away to study her. He didn’t need to add looking like her dead mother into the mix.

I don’t think that Kara calling Eliza by her name not Mom is a big thing. The first thing Eliza said to Kara is “I know I’m not your mother...”. It’s pretty typical for older adopted children to not be forced to call thier adopted parents Mom and Dad. As for Kara and Alex fighting as teens and adults, my sister and I fought just like that and we were raised together. As adults I can’t imagine how much we’d fight if we worked together as closely as the Danvers sisters do.