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Hi,

I just stumbled across this little nugget that is not SG-related but fun to try to wrap your head around.

Since we have people from all parts of the world who view / frequent these boards, the endless debate between Imperial Measurements (Ft., Lbs. Oz, MPH, etc.) used primarily in the U.S., and Metric (Kg, Cm, Kph, M, etc.), used mostly elsewhere, should be straightforward but never is.

Here's a quick primer for those who tend to straddle the Imperial / Metric divide - Canadian style.

Also, if you live in the Prairies, distance can be / sometimes is measure by the amount of time needed to get from one point to another (e.g. two hours as the crow flies).

See the attached conversion chart for a good head scratch / chuckle or two. :o ;)
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lol Yeah, I wondered why are lovely neighbors to the North are on the wrong side of things.;) We don't do metric over here in Jersey. We are set in our ways and will not change. We don't even pump our own gas, we have attendants for that task. Our governor wanted to change that due to the covid but that didn't fly and he quickly withdrew the order. When is the world going to realize that it's our way or the highway.:p
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Not being American I cannot really fathom using Imperial units, less doing science with it. Every unit having different conversions to another seems like a mind-bending complication that I don't know why anyone would prefer
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Not being American I cannot really fathom using Imperial units, less doing science with it. Every unit having different conversions to another seems like a mind-bending complication that I don't know why anyone would prefer


Fedguy, I am an American and I, and many others, would prefer using the metric system. But as has been disastrously shown in the pandemic, there is a portion of the population who hold deeply entrenched suspicions about practically everything (except for total nonsense, which they eagerly embrace). They hold an influence far greater than their numbers, for a variety of reasons which I won't go into. Yet I remain an optimist and hope to see the day when these anachronistic ideas and fears are behind us.
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I learned both measurement systems from elementary school on. I found out later that that wasn’t typical. I find being able to switch back and forth a useful skill.

Regarding Primary and Second School, I'm not sure how they equate to American Junior and Senior High etc. and it would make an interesting conversion, essentially:

Primary School = 4 or 5 (depending on date of birth) to 12 or 13, (No official state exam upon completion)
Secondary School = 12 or 13 to 18 or 19 (State exams at 14 or 15 (Junior Cert) and 18 or 19 (Leaving Cert)

The State exams are a 2 to 3 weeks long intensive questioning on the various subjects (usually seven to nine subjects) the students have studied, and often considered the most stressful part of any Irish students life.

Are SAT's the same?

A lot of American TV makes reference to SAT's. I nearly thought 'Blood Bonds' did how ever that appears to have been the Mandela effect in action. Cat tries to trick Kara using Teacher names.

I found this handy school conversion chart
https://www.pearsonclinical.co.uk/Sitedownloads/Miscpdfs/Gradetoage.pdf They didn’t have two Kindergartens when I was in school what’s K2 in the chart was Kindergarten and if you went to school before that it was pre-school and optional. I have a late September birthday and started Kindergarten(K2 in the chart) at four but turned five a few weeks into the school year, I was always one of the youngest in my class. From what I understand that’s rare now. In most places Elementary school is K-5th grade or K-6th grade. Jr High School is 6th-8th grad or 7th and 8th grade. The Danvers would’ve enrolled Kara in Jr High School when she landed on Earth. High School is 9th-12th grade. The Scholastic Achievement Test SAT is used in college admissions and less so now. It’s never been a requirement for graduation. It’s one morning long so not like the State exams you describe. I know most states have a High School exit exam and students take standardized state tests at some grades. I remember taking them in 4th and 7th grades and it wasn’t stressful but I think that’s changed.
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Well, back in 1970's America, the metric system was used and weather forecasts gave the temperatures in both Fahrenheit and Celsius.

At night before I go to bed, sometimes my radio picks up CHML radio 900 in Hamilton, ON. After news from the Canadian Press, they do a local forecast before airing classic radio shows (10 PM-2 AM). Temps given in Celsius.
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Gotta add this as a new unit of measurement in the Great White North.

See below! ;) ;) ;)
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I remember the Canadian sitcom Corner Gas touched on this phenomenon in at least one episode.
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Love the chart, Romulus! :D

I grew fairly proficient in the metric system, using it in my physics courses in college. It makes far more sense than Imperial. Alas...
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Readers should recall that 'metric' units were in large part spread by Napoleon Bonaparte, and therefore may be viewed as French Imperial units. Viewers doubtless hope that Kryptonian scientific units will doubtless be standard. After all, if Kara was doing calculus at 4, when she left Krypton at 12 she presumably had a solid scientific education, enough to revolutionize our understanding of the world, a detail that might have occurred to Lex Luthor.
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In Ireland we officially use metric for everything imbedded in law e.g. speed limits etc. (Road and Vehicle Safety measurements are all Metric). However there are times when Imperial is unofficially and traditionally used for example ordering 0.56826149 litres of Guinness doesn't quite have the same ring to it as ordering a Pint. We randomly switch back and forward depending on convenience. When it is a matter of calculations or safety we default to metric e.g. medicinal dosages, sewage vs clean water, currency. When its a matter of convenience we still use metric but supplement with Imperial e.g. feet for Human height, Hands for Horse height. Cooking books depend on the age of the book, some will use both.

Besides Imperial is metric ever since the inch definition has changed from being three barleycorns to being exactly 25.4 millimeters. I remember in Primary and Second School (see note below) in the eighty's and nineties we leant both systems simultaneously making it very easy to switch back and forward and visualise both.

Regarding Primary and Second School, I'm not sure how they equate to American Junior and Senior High etc. and it would make an interesting conversion, essentially:

Primary School = 4 or 5 (depending on date of birth) to 12 or 13, (No official state exam upon completion)
Secondary School = 12 or 13 to 18 or 19 (State exams at 14 or 15 (Junior Cert) and 18 or 19 (Leaving Cert)

The State exams are a 2 to 3 weeks long intensive questioning on the various subjects (usually seven to nine subjects) the students have studied, and often considered the most stressful part of any Irish students life.

Are SAT's the same?

A lot of American TV makes reference to SAT's. I nearly thought 'Blood Bonds' did how ever that appears to have been the Mandela effect in action. Cat tries to trick Kara using Teacher names.



Hi,

I just stumbled across this little nugget that is not SG-related but fun to try to wrap your head around.

Since we have people from all parts of the world who view / frequent these boards, the endless debate between Imperial Measurements (Ft., Lbs. Oz, MPH, etc.) used primarily in the U.S., and Metric (Kg, Cm, Kph, M, etc.), used mostly elsewhere, should be straightforward but never is.

Here's a quick primer for those who tend to straddle the Imperial / Metric divide - Canadian style.

Also, if you live in the Prairies, distance can be / sometimes is measure by the amount of time needed to get from one point to another (e.g. two hours as the crow flies).

See the attached conversion chart for a good head scratch / chuckle or two. :o ;)
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Brierrose thank you for the chart it makes sense now. However to avoid any confusion it is the Republic of Ireland column that applies to me.

If I remember correctly when Kara lands she has the appearance of a 13 year old human (her actual age is either not known as it depends on a number of variables around Krypton's orbit or is known if her Pod can run all the calculations necessary including the time in the Phantom Zone and run a conversion to Earth time). In 'Blood Bonds' Kara answers Cats inquisition mentioning a transfer to Midvale at eight grade. That does make sense according to the chart however that also means that her First Grade Teacher Mr. Zarzycki is either completely fictional or in case the school has to be tracked down for the first grade report card that Cat somehow got her hands on, someone in on (and willing to protect) Kara's secret.



I learned both measurement systems from elementary school on. I found out later that that wasn’t typical. I find being able to switch back and forth a useful skill.

Regarding Primary and Second School, I'm not sure how they equate to American Junior and Senior High etc. and it would make an interesting conversion, essentially . . .

Cat tries to trick Kara using Teacher names.

I found this handy school conversion chart
https://www.pearsonclinical.co.uk/Sitedownloads/Miscpdfs/Gradetoage.pdf
The Danvers would’ve enrolled Kara in Jr High School when she landed on Earth. High School is 9th-12th grade. The Scholastic Achievement Test SAT is used in college admissions and less so now. It’s never been a requirement for graduation. It’s one morning long so not like the State exams you describe. I know most states have a High School exit exam and students take standardized state tests at some grades. I remember taking them in 4th and 7th grades and it wasn’t stressful but I think that’s changed.
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In 'Blood Bonds' Kara answers Cats inquisition mentioning a transfer to Midvale at eight grade. That does make sense according to the chart however that also means that her First Grade Teacher Mr. Zarzycki is either completely fictional or in case the school has to be tracked down for the first grade report card that Cat somehow got her hands on, someone in on (and willing to protect) Kara's secret.
I think either case works especially if you believe Cat is trying to trick Kara. If the teacher is completely fictional(Cat made the name up) then Kara would’ve been thrown off by Cat giving a name she wasn’t prepared for. If the Danvers did create early school records for Kara and reporter Cat got her hands on them I find it completely believable that Cat would’ve say taken the name she found as Kara’s 3rd grade teacher and said 1st grade teacher in an attempt to trick Kara. If Kara had been given names of fictional or real teachers but Cat said something even slightly different from what she was expecting it would’ve also thrown Kara off even for a bit.
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Gotta add this as a new unit of measurement in the Great White North.

See below! ;) ;) ;)


I had to look up Timbit, so I learned my one thing for the day! Thank God for Google!
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Cleverly Delicious way to social distance. I guess in Jersey we could use tomatoes.;)

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Sorry folks, just had to add the latest Metric vs Imperial article link for a good chuckle or two while we wait for more / any news regarding Supergirl Season 6.

Admittedly, it's old news but for those needing a little OT diversion, this should fit the bill. ;)
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Gotta add this as a new unit of measurement in the Great White North.

See below! ;) ;) ;)


I had to look up Timbit, so I learned my one thing for the day! Thank God for Google!


Referring to the donut chain Tim Horton's, mostly in Canada...their TimBits would equal Dunkin's Munchkins here in the states.
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