Should new showrunners be brought in?

as mentioned not everything wrong with the show should be put on the showrunners. there are been reports of disagreements in the writers room (with some even exiting) and some episodes really felt like they were written by committee. the original vision of the show was spot on and refreshing, but again as noted the issues of the budget, the move to Vancouver, the cast changes etc all hurt. there is no doubt the show has been hurt by the loss of key characters and the inclusion of unnecessary characters to fill gaps.

maybe the showrunners should listen to their leads about where the show should be, it is after all Melissa and Chyler who hear from the fans the most about what the show means to them (girl empowerment, pro adoption stories, pro inclusion story lines etc).

I seem to be in the minority here as I am really (overall) enjoying this season. To the point that I think, overall, it has been the strongest season.

In some ways, I agree that is it the strongest season. For one, I believe it to be the most cohesive in all of the stories. Besides Season 1, this is probably the first time that almost all of the side-stories are actually relevant to the main story. And most all of the side-characters, including villains and guest characters, are related to driving that main story forward. I have appreciated that improvement in the show and have believed most of the season, that if they could get a strong main story that centered on Kara in a way that wasn't superficial, then it would be a very enjoyable season.

I don't mind the show being "political" but that is because it's politics mirror mine. I totally understand how, if I felt differently, it would be a turn off.

I believe that politics integrated into a show generally shouldn't be a problem. And I agree that probably some viewers are upset with this season because their political views are different. However, I don't believe that it's only those who disagree with the issues that have a problem with it this season. I have grown very weary of the insertion of the politics in this season and on a personal level, I completely advocate on behalf of those issues. I am pretty certain that my problem with its depiction is that the story itself is about the issue rather than the issue being part of the story. I've said it a couple of times that the story just seems to be a complete rip-off of the headlines (or social media commentary) with the characters on the show replacing the players in real life. Personally, I don't wish to be inundated with that much true to life depiction in my fictional television shows. All it seems to be accomplishing - for me at least - is to increase my already high level of frustration with the real life world events - to the point that many times, I almost just want to turn it off.

That, along with the continual lack of Kara-centered stories, original ideas and wonky writing that we have already talked about in depth, is why I feel there needs to be a change of some sort.

The thread is a fair criticism on the showrunners. I softened some language but I’ll let it continue. I am not beholden to them but I have met them a few times in person and they are very sweet people. Ali Adler was incredible as well. That’s all I will say but please continue with care on this topic.

Im getting pretty tired of the Supergirl team, as it was in Season 1....no problem, they could still do that. But now you have 3 Superheroes and Alex who Im surprised have not given her superpowers somehow.....the secondary characters have grown to a number that has now moved into Supergirls realm in time and power....Im not ok with that.

Honestly, I have no clue who is to blame, all I know when AK was here ( and this by no means means I want him back, it is simply an observation) when he was onboard there was a different vibe in presenting Supergirl and the time given to her. I think that is why a lot of the criticism has fallen to the showrunners. Im sure they are wonderful people, but that has nothing to do with their ability to show Supergirl in a way that is, for lack of a better word, "super". IMO....there was a start this season with the super montage, and then it was like.....ok we've shown she is super.....moving on to EVERYONE else....lol. AK understood the Super, in Supergirl....my hope is that we get that back in these last few episodes and go back to a more Season 1 balance, along with the cohesive writing of this season.

I couldn't have said it better. I watch this show for SUPERGIRL. Nobody else. I understood they wanted to flesh out J'onn and Alex, more, after season 1 (which was a noble goal, but that leads me to a whole different rant about how season 2 was executed). But they continue to add more characters, and give them equal focus to the primary protagonist.

The writing HAS been really cohesive, this year. My problem with it is that they seem to have said "this is the social/cultural/political allegory we want to tell", and then tried to figure out how Supergirl fits into that, instead of starting with what Kara's journey for the season should be and working outward, organically, from there. Due to that, she had so little focus in the first half of the season, and while it's been better in the back half, she continues to be pushed aside.

But I suspect that contractually they have painted themselves into a corner and may be required to write these characters into more episodes than we the fans find necessary.

Yet they continue to buy more paint because they keep bringing more regular characters in to require more time spent away from Kara.

I loved the concept of "stronger together" that they built around Kara in Season 1. But, that was when together meant four-five other characters helping Kara rather than an entire community of superheroes and tertiary humans. Nia and Brainy's budding romance, Alex's ongoing plight at motherhood/finding a new love interest and James and Lena's on-again off again affair is taking the concept of stronger together a bit too literally. None of it has anything to do with showcasing our titular character, Supergirl and it's boring as all get out.

Argee with all of this, but in particular, your comment regarding paint illustrates the absurdity brilliantly.