S3E9 "Reign" Discussion and Review

In time Kiwi or evrafter would have. I'd say the excitement for the crossover eclipses anything at the moment and normally discussions are not posted one week early.

Thanks for making this though

In time Kiwi or evrafter would have. I'd say the excitement for the crossover eclipses anything at the moment and normally discussions are not posted one week early.

Thanks for making this though

To be honest, im much more excited for the mid-season finale than the crossover. Im thrilled to see the continuations of the stories of mon-el, the legion of supe4heroes, and of course, reign.

To tell the truth, i think that the crossover came at a bad time for supergirl, because it ruin the momentum that the show got this week with mon-el's return and the awakening of reign.

I gotta get through the crossover first......

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

Yeah, I don't think she finds out that Same is Reign in ep. 9......she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding.

Bless her heart, she goes from Overgirl to Reign.....

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

Yeah, I don't think she finds out that Same is Reign in ep. 9......she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding.

Bless her heart, she goes from Overgirl to Reign.....

Yeah, two khryptonians in two episodes...both sort of dark versions of herself. I think Sam will never be as bad as Overgirl is bc Overgirl is a nazi and Sams just under mind control/conditioning. (The real Sam would never do what Reign does)

A reveal to another person also wouldn't make much sense to me considering she just barely got the Reign identity this episode.

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

Yeah, I don't think she finds out that Same is Reign in ep. 9......she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding.

Bless her heart, she goes from Overgirl to Reign.....

Yeah, two khryptonians in two episodes...both sort of dark versions of herself. I think Sam will never be as bad as Overgirl is bc Overgirl is a nazi and Sams just under mind control/conditioning. (The real Sam would never do what Reign does)

A reveal to another person also wouldn't make much sense to me considering she just barely got the Reign identity this episode.

Why do you keep saying she is under mind control, she is not...she is a created being, created to be a World killer not mind controlled to be that, she is MADE TO BE THAT, it is in her DNA.

I gotta get through the crossover first......

Exactly, we've got 3 additional episodes of Melissa (plus Chyler and Jeremy) to enjoy yet before we start thinking about Episode 9.

We (Myself and evrafter) don't start new episode threads until after the previous one has screened and been discussed.

For Episode 9 I'm looking forward to Supergirl vs Reign Round 1, hopefully the start of some action driven episodes.

I wonder if we'll see Imra in her Saturn Girl costume this episode or that won't be till Episode 10 when Braniac 5 comes along, I'm interested to see what costume they go with for her.

I am doubtful that we will see them in full costume in Reign....I think this will simply be when we see Reign first using her power.....my thing is, how will she know how to fight?

EN "Im thrilled to see the continuations of the stories of mon-el, the legion of supe4heroes, and of course, reign."

How about the story of Kara/Supergirl?.

All those stories, in the end of the day, affect kara's life and story, so im not worry about that.

I think this will simply be when we see Reign first using her power.....my thing is, how will she know how to fight?

Could be like Kara vs Vartox where Kara got beatdown in her first fight but this time Kara will be handing it to Reign. Then again if you say "she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding." then that could indicate Reign has the fighting knowledge in her Worldkiller genes.

At the very least it will be a most interesting watch to see how the first Supergirl vs Reign fight goes.


EN "Im thrilled to see the continuations of the stories of mon-el, the legion of supe4heroes, and of course, reign."

How about the story of Kara/Supergirl?.

Yes, they could show us that pretty quickly in the first few moments of Episode 9....ability to fly, among other things.

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

Yeah, I don't think she finds out that Same is Reign in ep. 9......she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding.

Bless her heart, she goes from Overgirl to Reign.....

Yeah, two khryptonians in two episodes...both sort of dark versions of herself. I think Sam will never be as bad as Overgirl is bc Overgirl is a nazi and Sams just under mind control/conditioning. (The real Sam would never do what Reign does)

A reveal to another person also wouldn't make much sense to me considering she just barely got the Reign identity this episode.

Why do you keep saying she is under mind control, she is not...she is a created being, created to be a World killer not mind controlled to be that, she is MADE TO BE THAT, it is in her DNA.

You and i fundamentally disagree on this point, but for the sake of argument let's say you're right, that its the DNA that activates her 'programming' or whatever. Would that same programming or whatever activate in ruby when she comes of age? She has the same genetic code as Sam, or at least probably 80 percent of it.
If thats the case....
Also I have a feeling the evil scientists although they said she was 'a mistake' would not be adverse to using Ruby as a 'backup'. She has the same genetics that Reign does so I can see Reign trying to activate her dormant world killer genes as well.

I wonder what the big cliff hanger for the mid season finale is going to be. I initially thought it was going to be Kara finding out Sam is Reign, but that seems to early to make that reveal given what we've seen of the other arrow verse shows with a 'hidden identity' big bad. (Reign wears a mask)

Yeah, I don't think she finds out that Same is Reign in ep. 9......she fights her in ep. 9 however, and from the pics out there is slammed pretty hard....to the point of bleeding.

Bless her heart, she goes from Overgirl to Reign.....

Yeah, two khryptonians in two episodes...both sort of dark versions of herself. I think Sam will never be as bad as Overgirl is bc Overgirl is a nazi and Sams just under mind control/conditioning. (The real Sam would never do what Reign does)

A reveal to another person also wouldn't make much sense to me considering she just barely got the Reign identity this episode.

Why do you keep saying she is under mind control, she is not...she is a created being, created to be a World killer not mind controlled to be that, she is MADE TO BE THAT, it is in her DNA.

You and i fundamentally disagree on this point, but for the sake of argument let's say you're right, that its the DNA that activates her 'programming' or whatever. Would that same programming or whatever activate in ruby when she comes of age? She has the same genetic code as Sam, or at least probably 80 percent of it.
If thats the case....
Also I have a feeling the evil scientists although they said she was 'a mistake' would not be adverse to using Ruby as a 'backup'. She has the same genetics that Reign does so I can see Reign trying to activate her dormant world killer genes as well.

First off, she would have circa 50% of Sam's genetic structure. I see no reason her attributes would contribute more than the father's.

Secondly, I see Reign and Sam as different personalities. Not brainwashing. Both simultaneously existing within the same body.

It's correct that she is a created being. Created to be Reign, the worldkiller. In the end, I think it's gonna come down to which personality is more dominant, and I think Ruby will play a heavy factor in that.

I will bet you that Supergirl will be handed her greatest defeat at the hands of Reign and that the cliffhanger will be the Legion of Superheroes.

The new trailer for Reign is out, and it looks like I was right about Reign pretending to be sam. She has a really 'cold' look on her face when walking through the office and also appears to be ignoring Ruby. Also the shirt rip was pretty cool!

Is anyone else getting a Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets vibe from Sam/Reign?
We have a girl (well in Sam's case woman) who is being possessed/controlled by someone. This person forces her to attack people, and leave mysterious messages behind afterward. The women has no recollection of her activities while she was possessed.
That sounds a almost exactly like Ginny from Chamber of Secrets. (Except Ginny was 11 at the time, and she didn't actually kill anybody because they were all cured, but still)

Pretty good episode. I think the Supergirl/Reign fight is my favorite the show has ever done. Was really well executed and the CGI didn't look as bad as it does in some of the flying fights. Maybe because most of the fighting took place on the ground.

I loved the Danvers sisters moments and also the Christmas party was pretty great with all the girls and Jonn and his father are so cute.

I don't like this whole love triangle thing its a little soap opera like for me. I'm sure we're going to go through all this Kara pining for Monel and find out that Imra and him aren't really the happy couple they seem. Then Kara and Monel will get back together. If they are going to to that they should have just got them back together without all this love triangle stuff. That is not really something I want or need to see on Supergirl. Also, I think Lena has chemistry with everyone but James. I don't know what's going to happen with James but it seems to me they still don't really know what to do with him.

I have liked season 3 so far so I hope it doesn't get all bogged down with romantic angst.

Holy *$&&@*-

This episode is some epic quality previously unseen.

We got a villain for once and damn she is to be feared.

My prediction of Supergirl suffering her worst defeat came true, but the cliffhanger didn't happen.

If only season 2 was anything like this. In terms of villains this episode is a return to form of the glory days of DCTV. And to know Sam’s humanity still remains. As some critics put it, Reign is not only powerful, but compelling, which excels even The Flash here after the SG villain game has been lagging behind the other shows for so long.

Arrow, Flash etc have the powerful villain part done right, but a compelling villain is a new thing, and Supergirl S3 pioneered it. It came as a much needed edge to the show.

Villain aside, while I don’t feel much about the new OlsenCorp, I like the decision as it gave James some purpose in the show, and hopefully kills the remainder of any fantasy involving Lena pairings.

One thing about a powerful villain though. After Zoom, Barry got pretty dark and brooding and became Arrow M.k 2. I can only hope Reign serves the opposite purpose. After Kara discovers who she is, let’s hope the redemption story restores both their humanities.

There is only one thing that I don’t like about this episode, but it is just a tiny detail. When supergirl first confronted Reign she should have tried to x-ray vision her mask just to prove that it was made out of led.