Might as well call the show "Girl"

In her defence.... they ARE World Killers, and Supergirl can't defeat them in the comic books, either. In fact, only a World Killer can kill a World Killer.

But we HAVE had a few discussions, as of late, that Kara really needs to be training. Still swinging wide. lol

P. S... You just posted for the first time and this is what you choose as a first comment? *sniff sniff* Is that troll I smell?

If not, jjjjuusstt checking. And... Welcome to the crew.

I'm no troll. Just got annoyed enough to be motivated to post. Gee, a critical comment about "Girl" oh, I mean "'Super'girl" and suddenly people shout "TROLL!". I think the writers get lazy with Supergirl's shifting level of strength. The one comment of her being beaten by a baddie then DEO shoots them away is astute. Sorry, but that last scene of her being held around the neck and doing some fruitless struggling is embarrassing.

It wasn't my comment but, I don't think that you were labeled a troll because you made a critical comment. If you spend some time looking through the posts in this thread and others, you will find quite a few who have been critical of the writing for the show and they weren't labeled a troll. And the inconsistency of Supergirl's strength has been a topic that we have discussed before, too. Most people on this forum don't believe that the show is perfect and would like to see the writing improved to make it a more solid show.

Regarding that fight scene, I wasn't fond of it either. I thought that the entire fight scene was weak and could have been done much better.

My guess is that the troll comment is based on the fact that this is the only post that you have written, it's negative and it was written without much tact.

I'm no troll. Just got annoyed enough to be motivated to post. Gee, a critical comment about "Girl" oh, I mean "'Super'girl" and suddenly people shout "TROLL!". I think the writers get lazy with Supergirl's shifting level of strength. The one comment of her being beaten by a baddie then DEO shoots them away is astute. Sorry, but that last scene of her being held around the neck and doing some fruitless struggling is embarrassing.

It wasn't my comment but, I don't think that you were labeled a troll because you made a critical comment. If you spend some time looking through the posts in this thread and others, you will find quite a few who have been critical of the writing for the show and they weren't labeled a troll. And the inconsistency of Supergirl's strength has been a topic that we have discussed before, too. Most people on this forum don't believe that the show is perfect and would like to see the writing improved to make it a more solid show.

Regarding that fight scene, I wasn't fond of it either. I thought that the entire fight scene was weak and could have been done much better.

My guess is that the troll comment is based on the fact that this is the only post that you have written, it's negative and it was written without much tact.

exactly. I disagree with many of the people here about many different things and get along with them just fine. but if your first presentation is soaking in misogynistic jargon, I am gonna call it out.

Powering Kara up by illuminating her with concentrated sunlight might let her overcome the World Killers. Putting Worldkiller 1 in the position where to get at Kara she must kill Ruby might also work, even if "Ruby" was an illusion. And for the bonus question, since no one claimed the two points: The "Solarmight" bomb was invented by the USA. Atom bombs destroy cities. Hydrogen bombs destroy countries. The Solarmight bomb destroys the universe. Source: Plan Nine from Outer Space. However, some scheme for powering Kara up might solve the problem.

I think it's a good plot device to have opponents that can overpower Supergirl physically without using kryptonite, red sunlight, or "magic". This way the show are avoiding the overuse of kryptonite, which really got kind of ridiculous in "Smallville".

Lena needs to invent a Solarmight*...errh, Ultrasolar ray..laser, and zap Kara with it to power her up, a lot. Kara could also use sparring against another Kryptonian, to emphasize things like superspeed to get many more punches in, heat vision while swinging, etc.

*2 points for identifying who invented the solarmight bomb.

Kara-too-powerful-nothing-can-stop-her will get very old too fast.

She apparently has PTSD after the Reign fight. Didn't anyone notice the look of fear on her face when Reign caught up with her at Fort Rozz? Also as for the second Word Killer, she seemed to have hesitated a lot right there. She might have lost her confidence to fight effectively against a World Killer that she doesn't even realize it.

Also another hint: the nightmares she's having about the World Killers. There's a third coming which will make it more worse for her.

I like it this way - makes her eventual victory near the end of the season feel much more sweeter.

True. But last year's victory came at a cost. I'm really curious what that cost will be, this year. Sam? Ruby? Her friendship with Lena? Her life?

It's a LONG shot, but I could see Kara making the self sacrifice to somehow save Sam (self sacrifice is kinda Kara's go-to move). It'd be interesting to end the season thinking Supergirl died. Maybe Sam is rid of the Reign personality, but keeps her powers...creates a new "Superwoman" alias until Kara's "startling" return, in the Fall. That's all an INSANELY long shot. It's just a thought I've been throwing around.

I'm still placing bets on Sam sacrificing herself to stop Reign and the other Worldkillers, Ruby stays with Alex. They set up Lena to learn Kara's secret, next year. And the small possibility of Supergirl getting whatever affliction that caused Overgirl's explosion, and that being a season long issue, next year.

I do agree that having Kara win less consistently, this year, and have her battles be tougher, has been a welcome change.

I do agree that having Kara win less consistently, this year, and have her battles be tougher, has been a welcome change.

For me, I totally have to agree with this. Not only does it make for deeper acting opportunities for the cast to show their true acting chops, but it's really the only way, I think, for them to drive a deeper, season long story... Which is what I think most of us on here were hoping for half-way through season 1. Remember how we started moaning on here about how we wish we weren't stuck with watching a villain of the week kind of series in the beginning? Well, Supergirl's gonna have to have her alien arse handed to her from time-to-time for a developed story arc to have time enough to marinate. lol

kdogg87 "And the small possibility of Supergirl getting whatever affliction that caused Overgirl's explosion, and that being a season long issue, next year."

Can you clarify further, does this mean Supergirl wouldn't use her powers for an entire season so as to not risk overexposure?, we'd have Kara Danvers and no Supergirl, or am I just reading that wrong?

Well, the truth is that we don't know much about Overgirl's affliction, other than the solar energy was building up in her cells to a point that even a Kryptonian couldn't handle, and it caused her to explode.

Whatever caused it may be a misguided attempt by the Reichsman to power up Overgirl by saturating her cells with yellow solar radiation.

If Supergirl is outmatched by the 3 Worldkillers, I could see Kara risking doing something similar to give herself a power up.

If she indeed did oversaturate her cells, as Overgirl did, I would think it would cause uncontrollable increases in strength and power. And she may have to vent solar energy, on purpose, to keep herself from going critical like Overgirl did. This may mean purposely Solar Flaring in order to reduce the solar energy in her cells. But that may only be a temporary fix.

I got super off topic. But I like trying to predict how current story lines may lead into next year's plots.

I think that a show in which Kara overpowers every villain would be very boring. I enjoy watching shows that have some type of conflict that the main character has to overcome. In Supergirl this year, we have seen Kara wrestling with two central conflicts: the internal conflict of her humanity and the major external conflict in her battle with the World Killers. She hasn't succeeded in overcoming either of those, which keeps me wanting to tune in each week.

We expect that her central conflicts will last throughout the season and will require assistance to overcome. But, I think that her struggles also have to be off-set with some success because otherwise the show would become dreary and monotonous. To me, that is where we should see her able to defeat the minor villain threat that shows up every so often. But, I think that in some ways, this is where the show has not done as well this season. The minor villain fights have been few and in some of those, Kara has deliberately been nurfed, requiring her to have help to defeat them. The lack of success in any of the conflicts that she has in her life makes it appear that she is weaker than usual.

Wouldn't that be because she was powerless and Reign wasn't. In Episode 10 Kara in her dreams said "I'm not afraid" and she showed that later on the episode when she went to fight Reign again and put the Kryptonite Needle into her, I don't think a scared Kara would've have gone anywhere near Reign again so soon.

I think that her being powerless was a major reason why she exhibited some fear in that situation. But, I also have to think that deep down, she has to have some self-doubt in her ability to defeat Reign. You can't take a beating like she did and not think that. Her saying that she was not afraid felt more like an assertion to gather courage rather than a statement of confidence.

IMO, Kara's interaction with Reign has a "fear component" to it, Melissa has done an outstanding job of allowing us to see that in her eyes. BUT........Kara also has an internal desire to save people, and that overcomes that fear. So, I don't necessarily think that Kara "saying she isn't afraid" is her saying that for "us" and then proving it.....it is her saying it "to herself" and then proving it. There is also a big difference between "inaction because of fear" and "actions in spite of fear".

I picked up on that fear in Melissa's eyes too Kelly, especially in Fort Rozz. She's doing a fantastic job of showing flickers of fear before Kara's innate drive to help people overcomes that fear. In Fort Rozz Kara was scared to be in a place with criminals her mother put away where didn't have her powers and that's totally understandable. I would love it if we get a sister talk about how both of them are scared after being seriously injured by the Worldkillers, it would be a nice follow-up to the talks in "Triggers". As B5 said fear is a natural response to the beating Kara took but as Alex said our fears don't define us.

I picked up on that fear in Melissa's eyes too Kelly, especially in Fort Rozz. She's doing a fantastic job of showing flickers of fear before Kara's innate drive to help people overcomes that fear. In Fort Rozz Kara was scared to be in a place with criminals her mother put away where didn't have her powers and that's totally understandable. I would love it if we get a sister talk about how both of them are scared after being seriously injured by the Worldkillers, it would be a nice follow-up to the talks in "Triggers". As B5 said fear is a natural response to the beating Kara took but as Alex said our fears don't define us.

I really wish that Alex's hostility, in "Both Sides Now", was driven by that fear, instead of pawning it off on her breakup with Maggie. In my opinion, it would have made more sense for Alex's hostility to come from a place of fear, driven by the fact that she saw what just one Worldkiller did to Kara, on Christmas Eve. The thought of there being more would be maddening.

I agree that there should be a conversation where Kara and Alex must acknowledge the lasting impact of what Reign did to Kara. It's the most comprehensive and complete defeat she's ever faced, and to not have it leave some scars would seem unrealistic, even for the Girl of Steel. Heck, ESPECIALLY for the Girl of Steel, who's used to being invulnerable.

I picked up on that fear in Melissa's eyes too Kelly, especially in Fort Rozz. She's doing a fantastic job of showing flickers of fear before Kara's innate drive to help people overcomes that fear. In Fort Rozz Kara was scared to be in a place with criminals her mother put away where didn't have her powers and that's totally understandable. I would love it if we get a sister talk about how both of them are scared after being seriously injured by the Worldkillers, it would be a nice follow-up to the talks in "Triggers". As B5 said fear is a natural response to the beating Kara took but as Alex said our fears don't define us.

I really wish that Alex's hostility, in "Both Sides Now", was driven by that fear, instead of pawning it off on her breakup with Maggie. In my opinion, it would have made more sense for Alex's hostility to come from a place of fear, driven by the fact that she saw what just one Worldkiller did to Kara, on Christmas Eve. The thought of there being more would be maddening.

I agree that there should be a conversation where Kara and Alex must acknowledge the lasting impact of what Reign did to Kara. It's the most comprehensive and complete defeat she's ever faced, and to not have it leave some scars would seem unrealistic, even for the Girl of Steel. Heck, ESPECIALLY for the Girl of Steel, who's used to being invulnerable.

Me too and I really thought they were going for that but no we got more emo relationship angst, that ticked me off.....and really screwed that eoisode up for me.

Kdogg and Kelly, spot on conversation for me. I've had the same thoughts concerning Kara's defeat and lack of deep conversation about it. Pretty sure I gave my tv the stink eye when what I thought was Alex having an outward reaction to that defeat turned out to be a "Maggie." Good grief, show runners.

Pretty sure it would take more than a glass of wine to deal with the first REAL beat down of Kara.

Kdogg and Kelly, spot on conversation for me. I've had the same thoughts concerning Kara's defeat and lack of deep conversation about it. Pretty sure I gave my tv the stink eye when what I thought was Alex having an outward reaction to that defeat turned out to be a "Maggie." Good grief, show runners.

Pretty sure it would take more than a glass of wine to deal with the first REAL beat down of Kara.

Agreed I thought Alex saying her reaction to Purity was because of Maggie was weak and was used because there wasn't enough time left in the episode for a longer conversation. It would defiantly take more than a glass of wine for the sisters to talk about their feelings about the beat down Kara took. Also lets not forget Alex has already had a broken leg and bruised ribs curtesy of Reign and it looks like Pestilence gets to her too. I say straight scotch for Alex and aldebran (the drink that's deadly to humans from the alien bar in Changing) but with a mixer for Kara. I don't know if we'll get that conversation but we can hope, it would be awesome it was the last dialogue of the season like Kara and Cat last season.

I think this thread should be deleted. I dont think feeding trolls is something we should do here

I'm no troll. Just got annoyed enough to be motivated to post. Gee, a critical comment about "Girl" oh, I mean "'Super'girl" and suddenly people shout "TROLL!". I think the writers get lazy with Supergirl's shifting level of strength. The one comment of her being beaten by a baddie then DEO shoots them away is astute. Sorry, but that last scene of her being held around the neck and doing some fruitless struggling is embarrassing.