Melissa’s response to recent events - Warning this thread contains political subject matter

. "A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit"

Probably not - but what if the lead character is in fact susceptible to the disease (but assumes at first that she isn't)? What if the Earth virus came in contact with a kryptonite meteorite, and picked up some Kryptonian DNA (or RNA), which it incorporated into its own genome?
Hmmm... now *that* might be an intriguing story line!

I’m pleased with the upgrade in the charges against Derek Chauvin and the filing of charges against the other three former officers. It seems the prosecutor is committed to the most serious charges possible. I don’t know if this is really the incident that will really change things but it seems the needle is moving in the right direction. This isn’t going to be fixed with prayers or a hope speech. We all need to do as Alex told Mon-El in S2E6 “stand up”. How you chose to do that is up to you but IMO doing nothing isn’t an option.

I’ve attended two protests and at both events the protestors were entirely peaceful. At one event the cops were peaceful too; they mingled and talked respectfully to us. At the other event the cops stood in a line and didn’t engage with us, there was a moment where I feared the cops would attack but thankfully it didn’t happen. I’m appalled at the reports of tear gas being used; substances that are banned for use in war should NEVER be used by my fellow citizens against my fellow citizens. IMO by and large it’s the cops causing problems not the protestors.

Can I politely ask that comments on this subject be taken elsewhere (like news websites and forums). Don't come to this website to read about current events which are all over the news.

This is Supergirl.tv not cnn.tv.

Please consider deleting this thread.

I must respectfully disagree. This thread began in response to a public statement by the show's lead actress; it was not created by any participant in this Forum just on the basis of a personal view. Since it was Melissa who spoke out on this I think it can justifiably be included here. It is also titled in a way that clearly indicates it relates to current news events, so those uninterested are not "blind-sided." If you do not want to read about these matters the solution is to simply not open the thread.

Can I politely ask that comments on this subject be taken elsewhere (like news websites and forums). Don't come to this website to read about current events which are all over the news.

This is Supergirl.tv not cnn.tv.

Please consider deleting this thread.

It’s why the “off topic” forum exists, which this thread is in.

As a side note, why are people everywhere so averse to talking politics? It directly determines life and how the world is run in a way that impacts everyone. It's probably actually one of the most universally relevant things people can discuss, and in times like these, very important to have dialogue about.

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-mehcad-brooks-death-threats-james-lena-kissing

Interesting CatPat posted picture in the Coronavirus Q&A Forum that could suggest exactly what I was referring to:

Supergirl with Mask

There are other Arrowverse posters too:

Arrowverse with Masks

Stewart Tick -

Eire El - "Or what if Kara was still impervious but asymptomatic. We saw in 'Childish Things' and 'Bunker Hill' that she can be affected by unusual particles in concentrated doses."

Yes, but if Kara is not really in much serious danger herself, there isn't much dramatic tension. After all, she's the protagonist. That was one of the criticisms that people were making about my early attempts at writing Supergirl fan fiction. Since then, I've been careful not to allow Kara to seem too invulnerable or "overpowered". Actually, I deliberately lowered her power and vulnerability levels to something closer to the Golden Age Superman. (Otherwise, it's hard for human villains to pose much of a real threat to her.)

Anyway, for this story - maybe Lex Luthor (or another major high-tech villain) gets an early look at the new virus, and identifies segments of Kryptonian DNA sequences in it. But Kara doesn't know that, and just figures it's a typical Earth virus, and that it won't affect her. When the villains use it against her, she is clearly taken by surprise. Then it's up to the Supergirl Team - with Kara at the helm - to figure out how to defeat this new threat (both to her and to the human population), and possibly how to turn it against the villains. As Shakespeare put it, "hoist with his own petard" - always an excellent dramatic device!

Melissa's messages have been heartfelt and strong, totally Melissa.

As far as what we are seeing. Revolution is rough, it's not pretty, it is not within the law sometimes, our country's history shows this. This Revolution is no different, this tipping point is no different now than those throughout our history. What IS DIFFERENT is the wide range of people we see in the streets protesting...and I think like Melissa, like myself it has made us take a look in the mirror and really look at our own wokeness. I found I was not as "woke" as I believed. This teacher, will listen more and speak less in my classroom. My students have a story to tell. I am recording interviews with ex-students and letting them tell their stories as a way to hopefully give my students this year the power to tell theirs.

Thank you Melissa for showing me really how important those stories are....

Peace guys and gals....

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-mehcad-brooks-death-threats-james-lena-kissing

We really ought to be beyond that foolishness, although I am not at all surprised.

Of course, it is a sign of the times that someone responds by trying to get Katie kicked off the show. Geez.

Robert Anthony, I read your piece. Although I disagree entirely with everything in it, I am not going to enter into a political discussion or a refutation of any of it. I think it speaks for itself, and everyone else is free to reach their own conclusion. But I do want to make a few related comments.

My first point is that the US is a nation of over 300 million people, and every one of us has our own story. Our wide range of life experiences has led each of us to a vision for our society and our country. The visions that some of us have may be greatly different from your own, but do not EVER imply that those differences indicate foolishness, mindlessness, lying, allegiance to any "ism," or a desire to divide or destroy our country. We are all Americans and we love our country every bit as much as you. Remember that.

Secondly, when I was working I often had subordinates come into my office, steaming over something someone else had done or said, and ready to tell them in no uncertain terms what they felt about it. My advice was always the same: write down what you are feeling right now, with all its anger, then stick it in a drawer for a day or two before we talk again. None of those memos was ever sent; cooler heads prevailed. Forgive me if I am presumptuous, but that is something you may want to consider next time you feel a rant coming on.

Last point. When I graduated high school and headed to college, my parents gave me a copy of the poem "Desiderata." I still have it, 52 years later. I recommend it.

@ RobertAnthony,

The poem superbill referred to is found in the link below. Very much worth reading. Also very relevant in today's world, equally so as when it was originally written.

Look into it.

Theoretically, I'd be in favor of not having political discussions. In practice, it's tough not to when the show itself has become very intentionally a political one.

Sorry to see you go, Kiwi.

As for Melissa's social media, I agree she can use her platform as she wishes. If she finds a sense of purpose in it, great. I'll give her musings as much attention and credence as I spare for any other celebrity's.

I would hate to lose Kiwi too and suspect he’s taking a break rather than quitting, I really hope that’s the case. Many long time contributors myself included have taken breaks then come back.

I agree that what Melissa says on her social media shouldn’t be given any more weight because of who she is. I still believe what she says is a valid forum topic for this site. I will pledge to keep my thoughts on any social issue stuff she posts confined to this thread.

It is tough to maintain a civil discussion regarding deeply held beliefs. Just the other day, I was called a fascist for suggesting that people listen to what people actually say instead of assuming an entire belief system from a non-political statement.

I want to applaud the group here. Thanks for not assuming the worst about each other.

Kiwi, I agree with you about this website being a place where fans can talk about Supergirl safely and I believe this can be preserved while including any healthy conversation where Supergirl (both Kara and Melissa) raises important issues.

In your About Supergirl.tv statement there's a part that reads "a place where fans can talk about Supergirl safely" which I really like as this website being a little piece of the internet dedicated to the character of Supergirl. In joining this website the one subject I didn't want to read or discuss is Politics as I know it's not a very safe subject.

It may seem strange to say this, however, thank you for having the exact opposite opinion to mine. It is a good demonstration of Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations (I am borrowing that phrase from Star Trek). A philosophy that is still sadly lacking in today’s society and a societal issue where change is drastically needed.

To clear out any possible bias on my part, I am an Irish citizen registered to vote in my own country. I am proud of my countries stance on neutrality and guns (I hate guns; thankfully they are banned in Ireland and our ‘An Garda Síochána’ (‘Guardians of the Piece’ - e.g. Cops) don’t use them). I am aware that I don’t have the right to push any American towards any political point of view and I would not do this (that includes my opinion on your second amendment), however American history and politics is very interesting when observing from an outside and neutral point of view and I find it especially interesting to see how fictional worlds such as Supergirl’s Earth 38 and now Earth Prime can have stories reflecting our own Earths Social issues. Did I just border on hyperreality here?

Putting all politics aside for a second, it is clear from the two videos on this forum that Melissa is trying to do something good for society (which we should all be listening to and learning from) and in doing so she is mirroring Kara’s will to act such as in episodes like Season 2's 'Exodus'. The video posted here by Brierrose is an hour and a half long. I approached it intending on watching it over multiple sittings, but I got hooked and saw it in one session.

Back to Social and Political issues, it is important to note in discussions such as this one that Superman from the very beginning 1938 has always tackled political and social issues. The idea that both are journalists (Clark in the Daily Planet and now Kara in CatCo Worldwide Media) lends itself to these issues. It is part of Clark’s and by extension Kara’s history from Superman’s first action comics pages through his WWII “propaganda” (I wish I had a word with less negative connotations for this). The Fleischer/Famous Studios cartoons featured some politics and the Radio Show famously broadcast the story “Clan of the Fiery Cross” which was recently made in into a beautifully written and drawn three part periodical “Superman Smashes the Klan”. The NerdSync YouTube Channel has a very good presentation about that particular Radio Show story https://youtu.be/LUOODp8PQac.

I'm pretty much the exact opposite. I have a strong dislike for politics in the Arrowverse shows that I watch and it's sad for me to say that Supergirl is the worst of them all for it's politics. The Politics sucks a lot of enjoyment out of the show and even the enjoyment of being a part of this website. I'm all about the fantasy when it comes to Supergirl (the character) and her Superheroic moments are what keeps me watching, it's definitely not political commentary. I wouldn't have watched this show past it's trailer if it didn't like Supergirl so much (which was pretty much the case with Batwoman, a character I'm not really interested in and after reading the Synopsis and watching the Trailer I definitely saw there was nothing for me and haven't watched a single second and never will)

@Erie EL

Putting all politics aside for a second, it is clear from the two videos on this forum that Melissa is trying to do something good for society (which we should all be listening to and learning from) and in doing so she is mirroring Kara’s will to act such as in episodes like Season 2's 'Exodus'. The video posted here by Brierrose is an hour and a half long. I approached it intending on watching it over multiple sittings, but I got hooked and saw it in one session.

I had a similar experience when I found the video. When I saw how long it was I wasn't planning to watch it in one sitting but I wound up staying up later than usual to watch the whole thing in one go because I was hooked. This type of thing is nothing new for Melissa and makes me proud she's our Supergirl.

@Kelly

Melissa's messages have been heartfelt and strong, totally Melissa.

As far as what we are seeing. Revolution is rough, it's not pretty, it is not within the law sometimes, our country's history shows this. This Revolution is no different, this tipping point is no different now than those throughout our history. What IS DIFFERENT is the wide range of people we see in the streets protesting...and I think like Melissa, like myself it has made us take a look in the mirror and really look at our own wokeness. I found I was not as "woke" as I believed. This teacher, will listen more and speak less in my classroom. My students have a story to tell. I am recording interviews with ex-students and letting them tell their stories as a way to hopefully give my students this year the power to tell theirs.

Thank you Melissa for showing me really how important those stories are....

These conversations are hard, messy, and uncomfortable but they are very very necessary. Like Melissa and others I've also been examining my own Wokeness. I've determined I still have learning to do. While I've never denied that racism exists or that it's roots run deep in my country my actions against it were/are inadequate. I need to listen a lot more read more then use that knowledge to take action. As a white woman I have a part to play in this revolution. When we talk about how society treats women I need to invite the experiences of all women into that conversation, women of color should not have to ask to be included. A friend of mine, who is a white woman, was asked to step between the police and POC at a protest she attended. She told me about locking eyes with a cop who had hatred in his eyes. The protests that I've attended have either had no police presence or a respectful police presence. I hope if I'm ever asked to step forward, like my friend was, that in the moment I'd put aside my own discomfort and fear to let my actions speak what's in my heart.

"Stewart, do I sense a new fan story brewing?"

Well, Superbill...

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

Sounds entertaining, Stewart! I'll be watching for it.

Quoting Brierrose: "While I don’t believe celebrities political views are more important than the views of us regular people they have the same rights to express their opinions as everyone else."

This is so true and thanks for stating it, though it should be obvious to everyone. It is disturbing that many people seem to believe that the only people deserving of freedom of speech are those who they agree with, and also that celebrities forfeit that right just because they are celebrities. This is nonsense, and you are correct in saying that people who say such things have no factual counter argument. Plus they are emboldened by the anonymity of the internet.

Hang in there, Brierrose. This too shall pass. Truth and justice always win out in the end.

Quoting Brierrose: "While I don’t believe celebrities political views are more important than the views of us regular people they have the same rights to express their opinions as everyone else."

And...people like myself have the right to offer a rebuttal, especially to the likes of "Representative" Bass...who was honored byby a member of Communist Party USA last August. It's not to my shock she represents a tyrannical totalitarian run state like California which is falling apart at the seems. She may deny being a socialist or even communist, but everytime some globalist operative like Bass opens her mouth, she's lying.

And do not even get me started on the corporate elite media who's silence or writing favorably of the likes of Antifa and Black Lives (LIES) Matter has led to all the violence in this country and could lead to an all out second Civil War.

My state CT has a similar congress creature...Rosa DeLauro a woman who has "represented" an area including the leftist enclave of New Haven for a long time...too long if you ask me.

Well @RobertAnthony at least you didn’t say shut up and entertain so credit to you for that. I disagree with what you said. I generally have a non engagement policy with folks such as yourself, once someone believes in conspiracy theories it’s no use, but you insulted my home state and I’m feeling salty tonight.

1) California is not a “ tyrannical totalitarian run state”, I should know because I live there and you don’t. What makes you say that, is it because our Governor listens to scientists that he celebrates good news but doesn’t downplay bad news that he’s not afraid to tell Disney that no it’s not safe to open a huge theme park during a pandemic that he doesn’t pretend coronavirus is going to magically go away. Is Governor Newsom perfect of course not nobody is but he will admit when he is wrong and do his best to correct the mistake. I’ve never once doubted that he is an empathetic person who has and will continue to put the good of the state first. My particular part of the state The Bay Area is doing well right now the curve is staying flat as we very cautiously and slowly loosen some restrictions. We’ve worked together for the common good and the majority of us believe in listening to scientists. We’re also not afraid to put restrictions back on if necessary. California has developed a transparent tier system if a country slips for a week it moves to a more restrictive tier and it takes two consecutive weeks with numbers in a less restrictive tier for a country to move down. California is the largest and most populous state in the US if it were a country it would be the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world. California contributes more money to the Federal government than any other state and gets back much less than we pay in. Please kindly refrain from insulting my home state, I don’t insult yours.

2) I’ve been to several BLM marches and I’m pretty sure you don’t understand what the movement is about. It’s not saying Black Lives Matter more than others but that Black lives are in danger in circumstances where other lives aren’t. As a white woman during the few encounters I’ve had with the police not for a second did I think my life was in danger, unfortunately that’s not true for Black people. My parents never had to teach me how to make others not be afraid of me just because of how I look. As a girl my parents did have to teach me how to deal with among several things catcalling and how to say no to a man in a way that still insured my safety. BLM is a civil rights movement and history shows that rights are not won simply by asking those in power nicely. If simply asking for rights worked we wouldn’t have needed to fight the British in the American Revolution. If simply asking for nicely for equality worked women wouldn’t have had to go on hunger strikes to get the right to vote. If simply asking nicely for equality worked Black people wouldn’t have had to fight for the right to vote.

3) Antifa is in my opinion a convenient boogeyman for the justification of racist ideas and policies.

@superbll thanks for the encouragement but I’ve been around long enough to know that in the real world truth and justice don’t always win out in the end.