Melissa’s response to recent events - Warning this thread contains political subject matter

"And also, these provocateurs are financed by leftist billionaire George Soros, who makes even Lex Luthor look like a piker."

Leftist billionaire is an oxymoron.

Antifa is not a terrorist group (or even one group), nor is it in the interest of any billionaire to fund them. Fundamentally people such as Soros have reason to fear left-wing politics.

Can I politely ask that comments on this subject be taken elsewhere (like news websites and forums). Don't come to this website to read about current events which are all over the news.

This is Supergirl.tv not cnn.tv.

Please consider deleting this thread.

I must respectfully disagree. This thread began in response to a public statement by the show's lead actress; it was not created by any participant in this Forum just on the basis of a personal view. Since it was Melissa who spoke out on this I think it can justifiably be included here. It is also titled in a way that clearly indicates it relates to current news events, so those uninterested are not "blind-sided." If you do not want to read about these matters the solution is to simply not open the thread.

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-mehcad-brooks-death-threats-james-lena-kissing

Last week Melissa did her first ever IG Live video, it was with Michelle Saahene one of the founders of From Privilege To Progress. The conversation was about anti-racism, internalized racism, complicity, and gaps in the education system that leave black people out of history. I didn't know Michelle's story and wasn't familiar with From Privilege To Progress so I'm glad Melissa starts the video by asking her to tell the story of why and how the organization started. It's almost 95 minutes so it's quite long but IMO worth the time. Throughout their talk Melissa listens a lot more than she talks but that's appropriate for the conversation they're having. I was aware that Melissa is well read but dang she reads some heavy books. You can actually see a friendship between these two women being formed in a little over an hour and a half.

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-mehcad-brooks-death-threats-james-lena-kissing

We really ought to be beyond that foolishness, although I am not at all surprised.

Of course, it is a sign of the times that someone responds by trying to get Katie kicked off the show. Geez.

Political discussions are hard, I choose not to get involved. I'll leave this topic up and for those that want to participate go ahead, but if people start accusing folks of things, very much like @RobertAnthony did in his tone for where people get their news, then you can face a ban.

You may not agree with what people are saying but you will respect their view and watch your tone. Robert, consider this a warning, and please, all, respect each other.

"Apparently Fed you get your news from CNN, which like Fox News, MSNBC, the major nets, NY Times, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, you name it, is propaganda for globalists." It's the "Apparently Fed", specifically calling out another user and demeaning them in tone.

Not ok per our rules:

"Do not put other people down. We are all fans of the same show, lets support each other not bring each other down."

It is tough to maintain a civil discussion regarding deeply held beliefs. Just the other day, I was called a fascist for suggesting that people listen to what people actually say instead of assuming an entire belief system from a non-political statement.

I want to applaud the group here. Thanks for not assuming the worst about each other.

"Stewart, do I sense a new fan story brewing?"

Well, Superbill...

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

I'm going to start on my next Supergirl story this week. And I was toying with these sorts of ideas about a new virus in National City, but it seems like that's hitting too close to home now. I was also thinking about something dealing with street demonstrations in the City, but I'd say that's become too politicized for me to touch at this point. I think I'll go back to my "travelogue" type of stories, and send Kara to Ireland this time (probably for a space rescue mission). Of course, I want to get Kara's musical talents in the mix, too. I'm planning to have her meet up with Allie Sherlock and join her onstage in Dublin with her guitar (as Kara Danvers, of course).
How does that sound?

Sounds entertaining, Stewart! I'll be watching for it.

Kelly, excellent point and it might be too soon for any pandemic related stories, as that would both hit to close to home and be understandably very upsetting for a lot of people currently suffering through the real one.

I hope all the fans and admin on this site are keeping well and staying safe.

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

...“Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent...I spoke to my Representatives at the State and Federal level about school's opening. They had not heard from any other teachers, that made me angry and I put it out there......they are hearing from us now, and we saw changes being made... we live in a time where “Qui tacet consentire videtur” cannot be allowed to exist. This is such a time.

How can a non teacher non parent best support teachers and schools right now,

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I’m not sure the most recent current events would be a good fit for the show. A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit. Addressing systemic racism I don’t think is a great fit either, while it could be done it wouldn’t be a Kara focused storyline. What could possibly fit is now that the DEO appears to be going away and Kara and Alex etc. are actually full on vigilantes there could be a story there. Alex has in the past violently questioned people, maybe the sisters disagree on where the lines are now that they’re the ones drawing them. That could lead to some meaty sister scenes.

...“Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent...I spoke to my Representatives at the State and Federal level about school's opening. They had not heard from any other teachers, that made me angry and I put it out there......they are hearing from us now, and we saw changes being made... we live in a time where “Qui tacet consentire videtur” cannot be allowed to exist. This is such a time.

How can a non teacher non parent best support teachers and schools right now,

It will be interesting to see how "Supergirl" takes on today's news events. It's kind of funny actually, if you look back over the last few seasons......"Supergirl" has already taken on the events of today.

I’m not sure the most recent current events would be a good fit for the show. A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit. Addressing systemic racism I don’t think is a great fit either, while it could be done it wouldn’t be a Kara focused storyline. What could possibly fit is now that the DEO appears to be going away and Kara and Alex etc. are actually full on vigilantes there could be a story there. Alex has in the past violently questioned people, maybe the sisters disagree on where the lines are now that they’re the ones drawing them. That could lead to some meaty sister scenes.

I wasn't thinking about them doing anything from today's headlines.
1. Season 2 talked about a disease infecting other aliens.
2. Season 2 talked about immigration.
3. Season 4 talked about racism and disenfrachising a group of people.
4. Season 5, IMO iud not really have a clear pathway to where ot wanted to go. But did speak on transgender issues.
5. I think Season 6 needs to go the way of Season 3. Choose a STRONG VILLAIN, like Reign and look back to some villains from Season 1 such as Reactron for a few episodes, not just one....and really get back to the comics in a way that Season 3 first half did.

Not on this website they're not, totally fine on social media, news websites, political forums etc. but their ought to be just 1 little small place on the internet were one doesn't have read or discuss such things


Anyways I know what I say doesn't really matter as I'm just a lone voice, the majority of posters here want political discussion and I'll leave them to that, it's just not something I'm looking for out of this website.

I agree Kiwi and your not a lone voice. There is an abundance of places already on the internet to discuss these topics and in far more depth. I don't have too much of an issue discussing that kind of stuff but I'd like to get a break every so often and talk about something else which is more relaxing and not controversial. This year has been pretty stressful with everything that's going on and its nice to get some escapism.

I know inevitably this stuff comes up in the show but wish there was less discussion of it. Season 4 of Supergirl for example there were fans who gave up of the series because it got overly political for them. What's kept me watching is Supergirl doing what she does and trying not to think too much about the political elements.

@ Kiwi I've not been here that long but it seems your an invaluable contributor so it would be a shame if you left.

I think Melissa and many others, myself included, are realizing that we fell under the latin phrase “Qui tacet consentire videtur”, meaning your silence is your consent. I think we are just finding our voice. Sometimes that "voice" in its infancy is very loud. I see it becoming more specific, strong, and much more organized in its delivery.

Regarding “Qui tacet consentire videtur,” recently, the MeToo movement emphasized the importance of positive consent. We are all familiar with "no means no," obviously. But we are made to understand that consent is not given unless you hear a "Yes."

Silence is just that. Silence. Anyone's interpretation of that silence is not the problem of the silent person.

A bit of wisdom attributed to President Lincoln: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

As a life long resident of Minneapolis, I am utterly disgusted by these four police officers. One coldly suffocated an unarmed man who was merely a suspect of a non-violent offense, was handcuffed, and who offered no resistance. That officer has been charged with murder and manslaughter. Meanwhile the other three stood by as George Floyd pleaded for his life and finally died, and they did nothing to help him or stop his torture. They are still free, but I hope they too face charges. It is simply horrible. Where was their humanity?

The actions of these four have triggered demonstrations, rage, and violence in my city and the whole country. The demonstrations and rage I can understand. The violence is inexcusable and has largely been the work of a small group of opportunists who are only out to commit mayhem. I am happy to say it appears to have been quelled tonight, at least in Minneapolis. I hope the same is true in other cities. But unless we all work together to end racism and bigotry, this will happen again. We all have to do so much better. Melissa's message is a great starting point. I am so proud of her!

Bill I would just like to know where leadership was...namely the governor, Minneapolis Mayor and even Attorney General Keith Ellison?

As for these opportunists, they belong to the radical group Antifa, which has just been declared domestic terrorists. By the way there is a picture of Ellison with some kind of Antifa booklet that's surfaced on the web. What they do is mix in with the otherwise peaceful protesters and then wait for a moment to strike, sort of akin to what the communists did during the Red Scare in the 1950's in the US.

And also, these provocateurs are financed by leftist billionaire George Soros, who makes even Lex Luthor look like a piker.

As for those four rogue cops, one of them was arrested, but charged only with manslaughter and 3rd degree murder...not enough...that cop should face murder if not capital murder. The other three should be declared accessories before and after the fact.

It's also time to reform training officers, including reinforcing allegiance to their oath to the US Constitution and not training from their time in the armed services, as some to most police officers spent time in them.

In it, among the Bill of Rights (the first ten amendments) is number 8...which deals with punishment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

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. "A story line with a disease related pandemic where main character would be impervious to the disease IMO isn’t a good fit"

Probably not - but what if the lead character is in fact susceptible to the disease (but assumes at first that she isn't)? What if the Earth virus came in contact with a kryptonite meteorite, and picked up some Kryptonian DNA (or RNA), which it incorporated into its own genome?
Hmmm... now *that* might be an intriguing story line!

Interesting CatPat posted picture in the Coronavirus Q&A Forum that could suggest exactly what I was referring to:

Supergirl with Mask

There are other Arrowverse posters too:

Arrowverse with Masks

Stewart Tick -

Eire El - "Or what if Kara was still impervious but asymptomatic. We saw in 'Childish Things' and 'Bunker Hill' that she can be affected by unusual particles in concentrated doses."

Yes, but if Kara is not really in much serious danger herself, there isn't much dramatic tension. After all, she's the protagonist. That was one of the criticisms that people were making about my early attempts at writing Supergirl fan fiction. Since then, I've been careful not to allow Kara to seem too invulnerable or "overpowered". Actually, I deliberately lowered her power and vulnerability levels to something closer to the Golden Age Superman. (Otherwise, it's hard for human villains to pose much of a real threat to her.)

Anyway, for this story - maybe Lex Luthor (or another major high-tech villain) gets an early look at the new virus, and identifies segments of Kryptonian DNA sequences in it. But Kara doesn't know that, and just figures it's a typical Earth virus, and that it won't affect her. When the villains use it against her, she is clearly taken by surprise. Then it's up to the Supergirl Team - with Kara at the helm - to figure out how to defeat this new threat (both to her and to the human population), and possibly how to turn it against the villains. As Shakespeare put it, "hoist with his own petard" - always an excellent dramatic device!

"And also, these provocateurs are financed by leftist billionaire George Soros, who makes even Lex Luthor look like a piker."

Leftist billionaire is an oxymoron.

Antifa is not a terrorist group (or even one group), nor is it in the interest of any billionaire to fund them. Fundamentally people such as Soros have reason to fear left-wing politics.

Apparently Fed you get your news from CNN, which like Fox News, MSNBC, the major nets, NY Times, Wall Street Journal, LA Times, you name it, is propaganda for globalists. And yes there ARE liberal billionaires like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and the Koch Brothers who claim to be republicans, but really aren't. Do some research into them on sites like Open Secrets and you will see what I mean.

Antifa is going to BE designated as a terrorist group because of what they have done to life in this country.

And for Mrs. Benoist Wood to do what she is doing, is, whether she knows it or not, giving aid to the Red Guard, a militant mob created in 1966-76 by one Mao Tse Tung and now being continued by dictator for life Xi Jenpeng in China and financed by mega-money elites, and worse it's now here in the US to destroy law and order forever in the form of Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

And I would also like to ask her, in her left-wing elite bubble in Hollywood, which is run by a lot of...fools for want of a better word...what if you or your family is attacked by someone...and you call the police...and they don't answer?

I do not trust most of what the corporate media says, which is why I go for alt-media which some call alt-right like Infowars, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit The Federalist and trust more real journalists like Sharyl Atkisson or Lara Logan though she works for Fox, and I find myself more and more watching Newsmax TV, which will go after Fox...there is alt-left (Salon, Vox, Huffington Post, Daily Kos etc). And even though watching Newsmax they will play clips of those on the far left, and every time they do or one of Fox's leftists speak I have to mute the TV because the bile they spew might make me lose my temper so much I want to yell at the TV or worse, and yes I know that won't do anything.

Progressives are really regressive people who want to destroy the concepts of democracy and the nation-state all in the name of globalism, totalitarianism and the New World Order and will tell lies to cover them up. Believe me I have family members and friends who are progressive liberals who have gone mind blind to the world around them. The Democrat party is not one of JFK, Truman or even the progressives like FDR and Wilson anymore. It has gone full communist and Hollywood and their woke mob is none too happy to further divide this country to cover up for and distract from their transgressions.

More free speech counters censorship, and as someone once told me, the answer to 1984 is 1776.

Robert Anthony, I read your piece. Although I disagree entirely with everything in it, I am not going to enter into a political discussion or a refutation of any of it. I think it speaks for itself, and everyone else is free to reach their own conclusion. But I do want to make a few related comments.

My first point is that the US is a nation of over 300 million people, and every one of us has our own story. Our wide range of life experiences has led each of us to a vision for our society and our country. The visions that some of us have may be greatly different from your own, but do not EVER imply that those differences indicate foolishness, mindlessness, lying, allegiance to any "ism," or a desire to divide or destroy our country. We are all Americans and we love our country every bit as much as you. Remember that.

Secondly, when I was working I often had subordinates come into my office, steaming over something someone else had done or said, and ready to tell them in no uncertain terms what they felt about it. My advice was always the same: write down what you are feeling right now, with all its anger, then stick it in a drawer for a day or two before we talk again. None of those memos was ever sent; cooler heads prevailed. Forgive me if I am presumptuous, but that is something you may want to consider next time you feel a rant coming on.

Last point. When I graduated high school and headed to college, my parents gave me a copy of the poem "Desiderata." I still have it, 52 years later. I recommend it.

Theoretically, I'd be in favor of not having political discussions. In practice, it's tough not to when the show itself has become very intentionally a political one.

Sorry to see you go, Kiwi.

As for Melissa's social media, I agree she can use her platform as she wishes. If she finds a sense of purpose in it, great. I'll give her musings as much attention and credence as I spare for any other celebrity's.