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  4. Monday, 15 May 2017
I hope someone who writes or helps produce the show visits this site, listens to the viewers and will knock some sense into whoever keeps putting politics in the show. Stop it already!!!
An alien who is President still has to be a "democrat"? References to "resist" and "make" things "great again".? and the rest of the not so subtle inserts over the past several episodes. The show would still have told a good story without such lines.
I know they must think it is "trendy" to do, but have you seen what has happened to ESPN? They are hemorrhaging viewers, losing profits and just let go 100 on air talents because people turned off politics and sports. ESPN is sagging. If I wanted politics on Monday night at 8pm there are plenty of other shows I can tune in to watch.
I want this show to succeed but this idea of putting politics in is not the way to go. It takes away from the fun of the escapism and putting aside the problems of the real world - even for just an hour. The shelf life of some of those political references won't last too long, but good writing and Superheroics will last forever.
How about just focusing on good story telling that grows Kara as a person and a hero for everybody, fighting the "bad guys" and moving the show forward.
I am hoping part two elevates beyond tonight's episode.
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I'd have to say the producers don't read this, Hollywood seems to exist in some sort of echo chamber with these stupid and divisive comments. Not only do these political jabs ruin the fun of the show, they're just crammed in, not though out, and often just don't make sense. Like the original post, the whole “make America great again” jab was the first time I really noticed, combined with the “girl power” aspect during the election cycle. I could be wrong, but I don't even remember Teri Hatcher even claiming their goal was to make America great again, it just sort of showed up. The girl power thing was fun when the Spice Girls did it in the 90's, but I hope we're a little further past identity politics than the show seems to give people credit for.

Many people have pointed out that it breaks the escapism you want in a fictional show, but it's so true. I used to watch the show waiting to see what would happen, now I honestly watch the show waiting for the experience to be ruined by an unnecessary jab at the office of the president. The election was a year ago, it's time to get over it. Superman (as a trademark, which includes Supergirl) existed through democrat and republican governments, and will continue to exist long after these non-original jabs. The things that make a show enjoyable and timeless is that it exists in a fantasy world. That being said, this world has an alien lady for a president, fine. The show wants to further support for groups and has main characters that are gay, great. But none of this will make sense to people that might want to watch the show on Netflix 10 years from now. Can you imagine how confusing it would be to try watch the original Superman movies or Star Trek (in it's various forms) if it was full of the political views of a small group of people from the time. Even Battlestar, which was very political, was political in a FANTASY WORLD.

On a side note, Superman is Canadian anyway, the logo is recognized by more people than the American flag, and stands for a set of ideals, not a political ideology. Those ideals are founded more in the Judaeo-Catholic dogma of protecting the weak, and doing what is right regardless of the circumstances, furthered by the knights code in western Europe which predates America entirely.

Finally, even if you could look past how trite and experience destroying these attacks have become, they don't even make sense in the story anymore. I just finished watching the most recent episode (10/29/17 right now) and it's become so poorly written, just the lack of effort being put in by the staff has become a distraction. In season two, during the election cycle, you have Cat quoting the aliens using quotes that were never said. The evolution of “girl power” was pretty much absent in the show prior to this period. Why would Supergirl promote the unity of “girls” when she was raised by a renowned female scientist, has a strong relationship with her older sister, works for one of the most successful people in America (again, a girl), lives in a world with a woman as the President, and herself, a girl, is the strongest being in at least two earths? Not to mention the relationship she has with her mother and her aunt. It just doesn't make sense.

As with a lot of propaganda through the ages, much of the politics interjected into the show are just false and meant to manipulate the minds of people watching them. And because the show is trying to fuse real world politics into a fantasy world it's even further convoluted. Moving on to the start of season three you have the Cat Grant cameo, talking about global warming (also seemingly non-existent in this world with the exception of this political jab) saying the president has identified it as the largest threat facing the world because she's smarter than a middle-school child. I won't even justify the fact that a complex issue like global warming (in which Nobel laureates disagree) is beyond most 8th grade science projects, but it's the first time it's mentioned in this fantasy world clearly referring to the Paris climate accord which was in the news about six months prior. How in that period of time (half a year) this was the best effort the writing staff could come up with is perplexing. But the actual facts of the real world made fantasy world issue aren't even accurate. The government removed restrictions on businesses in America, but only until they were placed on larger polluting countries.

But moving on to the next episode, Mexicans are suddenly being beaten in streets 20 years ago and the government is building a wall to keep them out because they're all “murderers and rapists”. So many things about this don't make sense. First the time frame. The girls father endured it for his family. She's a millennial, which would put these beatings in the 70-90s, during the Clinton administration. So in this “fantasy” world, things are better because the wife of the President who presided during the mass beatings of Mexicans is in office? Then it dawns on you, the government thinks Mexicans are murderers and rapists and they're building a wall to keep them out. In this world, just last week the president was a lady (lets be honest, even if it's a female alien it's meant to be Former Secretary Clinton) that was smarter than a grade school kid, but now hates Mexicans and is building a wall to keep them out. Added to the fact her father doesn't want his daughter to be married worried that she will undergo the same persecution he endured (being called names and beaten until his ribs were broken, back in the 70-90s) today. Since the show is breaking the fourth wall bringing real world politics into our fantasy world, the only governments today that actually allow that behavior are the same countries the real world government attempted to, and failed, to deny entry to America. But even that point is contradicted by the changes to the opening monologue in which Supergirl is now a refugee to America. But then you're again confused when the father was the only Mexican working along side an all white staff, likely negating the chances he would be an illegal alien, since the majority of work for “undocumented” individuals is working with other “undocumented” individuals in substandard environments. With an all white minus one work force, he would have immigrated to the country legally to begin with and, two things, wouldn't fall under the “murderer and rapist” category for illegal immigration, and even if this fictional democratic government was building a wall, it wouldn't have kept him out to begin with. But then it goes on to say he became the sheriff of this same community. This would definitely say his citizenship papers were in order, but also that he was now the authority on protecting people that were beaten today, just like back in the 90s. I think this was meant to be a success story to lead into the DACA issues for dreamers, but that issue wouldn't apply to his family since he clearly went through the legal immigration status. You'll know nobody reads these when the deportation issue comes up inevitably in later episodes. And when it does come up, it will just further the confusion around the fantasy government Cat currently is part of. I'll note in re-watching the episode, the beating were framed around the time the father would be 11, and didn't specify the duration, but the timeline still doesn't make sense, even if you push it back to the late 70s to early 80s, which would put his character around the age of 60 it still seems odd, to be working in a factory full of white 11 year old kids, so I'm not going to edit that part, just add this extension.
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