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On the heels of the upcoming Suspicious Minds, Steve Younis, who runs the Superman Homepage, which features stories and reviews of Supergirl, as well as opinions, offers his in a segment called The "S" Files...a sort of knockoff on :The X Files."



But...here Steve makes a mistake...Alex runs the DEO...not Col Haley.

Somehow, Steve exposes the writer's wonkiness (if that word exists), which IMHO, is why the show has gone topical.
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So, I disagree with the idea that the identity question is too shallow to propel a proper story because I think there is a basis to not only build more character for both Alex and Kara but, also be topical at the same time. Whether they actually do that and accomplish it is yet to be seen.

Agreed. Plenty of character potential in the storyline. I am curious to see how it works out.
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Except in an organization with many members, there are bound to be exceptions--like McGill, the Cadmus double agent and Jensen, who defected to the Children of Liberty. Or perhaps someone with no other agenda, who just believes in following orders.
That's very possible and might be what throws a wrench into Alex's efforts to keep it silenced. My point with the original comment was in reference to the YouTuber's belief that the investigation story doesn't have anywhere to go.

With the story that the writers have told so far this season regarding Alex's placement into the Director's position, it appears that they're focusing on her ability to be a strong, capable leader. This means more than just making the right decisions. It also entails being able to pull the team together, have the same goal and same plan to achieve that goal. So far, she's struggled in that area, i.e., the examples you mentioned. I have to wonder if this investigation will continue to explore that concept. Does she have the leadership skills to build the team's confidence in her? Can she influence her team to keep the secret? Is she able to locate any possible dissenters and deal with them appropriately? These are all questions that could possibly drive both her story and at the same time drive Kara's.

So, I disagree with the idea that the identity question is too shallow to propel a proper story because I think there is a basis to not only build more character for both Alex and Kara but, also be topical at the same time. Whether they actually do that and accomplish it is yet to be seen.
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In fairness, when they have focused on character, I think they have produced the best writing on the CW.
I just wish they would play to their strengths.


And I am in agreement with you on that as well
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Yep. The writers are wonky alright. Going topical doesn't hide that; it only makes it more evident.


Pardon my reaction but...BULLSEYE!

In fairness, when they have focused on character, I think they have produced the best writing on the CW.

I just wish they would play to their strengths.
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Yep. The writers are wonky alright. Going topical doesn't hide that; it only makes it more evident.


Pardon my reaction but...BULLSEYE!
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On his point about the DEO knowing Supergirl's identity, I think that that is actually an idea that does have room to be explored. Just because the DEO knows, and I don't think that the writers have explicitly indicated that they do not know, doesn't mean that they are bound to say anything. And I don't mean this because of some non-committal disclosure piece that they signed. There are many times, especially in a military or law enforcement setting, that the members of a tightly knit group of officers, detectives, etc., have an informal agreement not to reveal details that they believe might compromise members or the group itself. It's considered an essential part of a "brotherhood" that is established to keep each other safe by watching their backs. The DEO would be a similar type of environment.
So, I think that it is very possible that this investigation by Haley will be a test of that commitment. This not only seems like a reasonable direction given this situation but, when we also remember that the whole story is somewhat of an analogy for the secrecy within government that is being played on in society today, then it ties in with that, too.

Except in an organization with many members, there are bound to be exceptions--like McGill, the Cadmus double agent and Jensen, who defected to the Children of Liberty. Or perhaps someone with no other agenda, who just believes in following orders.

I have to wonder if Haley does end up finding out if it will then be a question of what does she do with the information?

I kind of want her to find out just so I have this very question answered!

It's pretty common knowledge that the EPs and writers are not the best about continuity and plot holes or even just covering their butts by being a little more diligent in the details that are put into episodes. Haley's entire presence is one that has been questionable since Alex was first required to salute her. However, I believe that part of the problem is that there has been a revolving door of writers, directors, EPs and even networks on the show and it's probably a struggle to keep all the pieces straight.

Agreed. Sad to say, the best they can do is aim for some consistency going forward.
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This is a good question, as the whole issue has been handled very casually up until now. You all make some good points and it will be interesting to see where they go with this. Or maybe as his last act as Director, J'onn wiped the memories of everyone at the DEO! LOL.
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I agree with him on some things but, I think he's being a bit narrow in his focus on others.

On his point about the DEO knowing Supergirl's identity, I think that that is actually an idea that does have room to be explored. Just because the DEO knows, and I don't think that the writers have explicitly indicated that they do not know, doesn't mean that they are bound to say anything. And I don't mean this because of some non-committal disclosure piece that they signed. There are many times, especially in a military or law enforcement setting, that the members of a tightly knit group of officers, detectives, etc., have an informal agreement not to reveal details that they believe might compromise members or the group itself. It's considered an essential part of a "brotherhood" that is established to keep each other safe by watching their backs. The DEO would be a similar type of environment.

So, I think that it is very possible that this investigation by Haley will be a test of that commitment. This not only seems like a reasonable direction given this situation but, when we also remember that the whole story is somewhat of an analogy for the secrecy within government that is being played on in society today, then it ties in with that, too.

The part that I do agree with him on is the idea of being able to identify Kryptonian signatures. If Haley knows about that, then the importance of conducting an investigation is a mute point. Or, if there is actual video of Kara in the DEO then that, too, would make the case for continued concealment weak.

I have to wonder if Haley does end up finding out if it will then be a question of what does she do with the information?

It's pretty common knowledge that the EPs and writers are not the best about continuity and plot holes or even just covering their butts by being a little more diligent in the details that are put into episodes. Haley's entire presence is one that has been questionable since Alex was first required to salute her. However, I believe that part of the problem is that there has been a revolving door of writers, directors, EPs and even networks on the show and it's probably a struggle to keep all the pieces straight.
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Bonus points for the Martha joke! :D

The point is valid. They spent 3 season not bothering with the secret identity thing at the DEO. Now it's an issue.

Alex is in charge, but she answers to Haley, who is somehow her "superior officer," a meaningless designation, because there has been no mention of Alex ever holding a military rank.

Yep. The writers are wonky alright. Going topical doesn't hide that; it only makes it more evident.
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