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I've decided to start a list of all the pros and cons to assess the current state of the show. Feel free to add/dispute:

Wrong:
- Critical lack of involvement/portrayed competence of Kara herself. (This season)

- Overwhelming obsession with expanding side character arcs. (Almost every season)

- Underwhelming and non-threatening main antagonist (Season 2 and this season)

- Poorly defined and ambiguous plot direction (Every season except S3)

- Repetition of forced character conflict/creation of drama (Every season)

- Political messaging done in an awkward and overt manner inconsiderate of setting and plot (S2 and now)

- OR, viewing the series primarily as a tool to make political/social statements and only secondarily as a standard hero TV show (since beginning)

- Stoking ship wars through design of romance arcs (possibly)

Right:
- Good intentions with political/social statements despite questionable execution

- A uniquely wholesome and intelligent reinterpretation of the old "annoying teen" Supergirl.

- A very wholesome and positive vibe (mostly season 1, I notice all CW characters become more "Arrow-like" as the seasons pass)

- Interesting and well acted characters. If only the arcs of some side characters can be reduced, it would be perfect.

- Outstanding performance of lead, MB as Kara . If only she was utilised more.

- Nice soundtrack (S1).

- Overall good quality of individual episodes (before S4)

- Worthwhile comedic moments

- Fair utilisation and expansion of DC lore.
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they finally found that the subtle approach works best. Jame's PTSD is a great anti gun storyiline that doesn't try too hard and is relatable (it's also a good mental health storyline that feels organic and isn't preachy). the subtley of how Brainiac acts when he gets his precious ring back, the confliction on Lockwood's face as events beyond his control play out (events that he started), the tension from Lena when she holds back critical info and so on. Good writing finally, all the storylines seem to mesh, Kara and Rara are outstanding and they seem to be fixing their Alex problem.

here's hoping this continues and they don't slide backwards.
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Yes, we have discussed these sorts of inconsistencies before (but yours is the best documented commentary I've yet seen on it). I noticed the frequent inconsistencies back in Season 1, and it was one of the main reasons I decided to start writing my own Supergirl fan fiction stories. I wanted to show that it was possible to write Supergirl stories in which her power and vulnerability level was consistent from one "adventure" to the next. Also, I thought that Supergirl would probably be working with the National City Police Dept., too. So I invented a police commanding officer whom I named "Capt. Seymour", as a police dept. connection to Supergirl He's like Commissioner Gordon - he has access to an encrypted "Supergirl Phone" line (which disguises Kara's voice), but he doesn't know her secret identity.
Anyway, I figured that Supergirl would be bulletproof (and resistant to ordinary flres), but that high-voltage electricity and hot plasma jets (or something "super-hot" like thermite) ought to be able to stop her. A few sticks of dynamite would probably just blow her across a parking lot, but a truck bomb consisting of 5,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate should be able to knock her out cold. I set her strength at the ability to lift about ten tons, so that she could lift a MOAB (Massive Ordinance Air Burst) bomb out of National City before it completely decimated the waterfront area. I also figured that she ought to be able to fly at up to Mach 2 or 3. And of course, kryptonite and "red sun radiation" can weaken her, too (with kryptonite possibly being fatal).And as in the TV show, Kara needs air, too, so she can't fly into space or swim underwater for more than several minutes (without oxygen tanks, that is).The TV show never seemed to establish anything about the power level of Kara's heat vision, either. In my stories, I've set it at about 25 kilowatts, So there are actually laser weapons out there today that Kara can't simply overpower. Then there's the "5th dimensional magic" of Mr. Mxyzptlk, too - but he's definitely in a league all his own :)
At any rate, this is what I came up with, and I've tried to stay consistent with it in the nearly 90 stories I've written so far!
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Continuity is indeed important. Continuity mistakes in my opinion stems from the fact that they don't really care about their universe/setting, but mostly drama/making poorly disguised statements.
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I agree with almost everyone who has voiced their likes/don't like opinions of this show, and because they were very well expressed by everyone who has contributed so far, I won't repeat any of them here. However, I have had a few other completely different gripes about the show that haven't been mentioned by anyone else so, for whatever they may be worth, here they are.

I like continuity in anything, simply because it means that someone got their facts straight to begin with, and cares enough to keep them straight afterwards. But one really big beef that I have is the perpetual inconsistencies that have permeated this show for many things, such as dates and time-lines:
* In 2015, Kara was 24 years old; when added to the 24 years that her pod was stuck in the Phantom Zone, this would have made her year of birth (on Krypton) as 1967, and if she was 12-13 years old when Krypton was destroyed, then that would therefore have been in 1979 or 1980, and she would have finally arrived on Earth in 2003 or 2004. And in Feb-2017, in Episode 2.11, "The Martian Chronicles", Kara said that she was looking forward to celebrating her "13th Earth birthday", thus making her arrival on Earth as Feb-2004.
* And yet, if Jeremiah Danvers was recruited into the DEO a few months later (as per Eliza's description in Episode 1.05, "Livewire";), and Jeremiah was then reported killed in Peru the following year, then this would have been in 2005. But in Episode 2.07 ("The Darkest Place";) in 2016, Jeremiah told Kara that he'd been a prisoner at Cadmus "for 15 years", which would have been since 2001, 3 years before Kara even arrived on Earth.
* In another episode later that same year, J'onn J'onzz talked about how he'd "worn the face of a black man for 15 years", which would also put that meeting in Peru a few years before Kara's arrival on Earth.
* And in Episode 3.01 ("Girl of Steel";) in 2017, Supergirl told J'onn that she'd been Kara Danvers "for 15 years", thus putting her on Earth in 2002, two years before she actually arrived.
* At the end of Episode 2.22 in 2017, we see the witches on Krypton putting the baby future-Reign into a pod to send her to Earth, and are told that this was "35 years ago" which, by all of the other time-lines, would have made it 2-3 years after Krypton exploded.
* We were frequently led to believe that Cat Grant was still working at The Daily Planet when Clark Kent and Lois Lane were also there. But in Episode 1.08 ("Hostile Takeover";) in 2015, Cat tells Kara that she had her first son, Adam Foster, 24 years ago, AFTER SHE'D LEFT THE PLANET to start CatCo; so this would have been in 1991. If Kal-El arrived on Earth in 1979-80, and grew up as Clark Kent, than he would have been only about 11-12 years old when Cat left The Planet to form CatCo; so how could Cat have worked with either Clark or Lois, who would presumably be no older than Clark is?

Dates and times aren't the only things that this show isn't consistent or logical with:
* And if the DEO was first formed to deal with any potential threats that Superman presented in Metropolis, then why was it located in National City in California years before Kara even arrived on Earth?
* During the "Crisis on Earth-X", Harrison Wells said that there are 52 multiverses, with 52 Earths, but in the "Elseworlds" cross-over, the Jay Garrick/Flash was from Earth-90.
* The Luthor mansion would have to have been located outside Metropolis (again, east coast) because that's where Lex-Corp was located, and where Lex and Superman opposed each other. And yet, last year, Alex was able to easily drive from National City to the mansion on her motorcycle. And just recently, Lena was able to travel back and forth between the mansion (where a dying Lex was) and the hospital where James was, in no time at all. And when Manchester Black caused the power disruption, National City and the mansion were both affected by that. And yet, when Lex and Otis were making their getaway in the helicopter, Supergirl stopped them, and Lex escaped by using a flying device to zip down to Metropolis right below them. Now, the Luthors may have been able to afford the largest mansion in the world, but I doubt that it was so big that one end of it is on the east coast, and the other end of it is on the west coast. Hmmmm?
There are many other date/time/place inconsistencies that I've noticed, but for the sake of space these examples will do.

Another thing that bothers me is how they always seem to be trying to make Supergirl way less super.
* Flying speed: In Episode 1.20 ("Better Angels";), she carried Fort Rozz up into space and pushed it away from the Earth, and this would have required her to fly at considerably better than 'escape velocity', which is approximately 40,300 km/h. And in the conclusion of "Elseworlds", Supergirl and The Flash traveled around the Earth in opposite directions, depicted on-screen as taking her only a mere second. The circumference of the Earth is 40,000 km, so she would have been flying at 40,000 km/SECOND!
And yet, how many times have we seen her desperately struggling to catch up with a rocket or missile that's traveling at only Mach 1 or 2?
* And how about her strength? In Episode 1.15 ("Solitude";), James says that the weight of the key for the Fortress of Solitude is "a million tons of dwarf star"; and in Episode 4.14 ("Stand and Deliver";), The Hat says that the key to The Fortress weighs "500,000 kg", which is 500 metric tonnes (a lot less than a million - another inconsistency). And let's not overlook the fact that in 3.01 ("Girl of Steel";), Supergirl lifted up a nuclear submarine, which would have weighed at least 10,000 tonnes; and also that, according to General Lane in Episode 1.20, Fort Rozz weighed "a million tons".
The reason for mentioning all of these is that, for all of the obvious super-strength that she is supposed to have, I have lost track of how many times Supergirl doesn't seem to have the strength necessary to punch out almost anyone who she's facing off against, whether it's another alien, or a meta-human, or a human assisted by some device of some kind. Indeed, it seems as if almost everybody lately has some kind of device to render Supergirl helpless, not to mention what Menagerie's snakes did to her.
So, if it seems as if they really don't want her to be so super, then what's the point of having a show about "Supergirl"?

I know that it's only a fantasy-superhero TV show, and maybe I'm the only one who notices these kinds of inconsistencies, but it has me wondering why the writers/producers are so careless - or maybe just indifferent - about keeping their facts and backstories straight, or about letting Supergirl live up to her name.
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The current season of Supergirl has gotten so political, it has become difficult to watch...
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I actually think they have done a pretty good job of mirroring what we have seen in the news. If people don't think that a Nationalist point if view is exploding within our society then some research needs to be done by some viewers. What I have seen, as we saw in the episode before the Lex episode was the take a step into the racial divide of our country, which is very real...and very quickly taking us to a story of coming together. You cannot have light without some darkness.
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The current season of Supergirl has gotten so political, it has become difficult to watch...
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Can agree on the wrong at least


Even though they are hitting a heavy subject, it isn't near as heavy handed as that horrible "guns are bsd get rid of all of them" episode last year.

True, but you have set an awfully low bar there. :)
well.....true....lol
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Can agree on the wrong at least


Even though they are hitting a heavy subject, it isn't near as heavy handed as that horrible "guns are bsd get rid of all of them" episode last year.

True, but you have set an awfully low bar there. :)
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Can agree on the wrong at least


Even though they are hitting a heavy subject, it isn't near as heavy handed as that horrible "guns are bsd get rid of all of them" episode last year.
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Can agree on the wrong at least
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Mine are pretty simple...

RIGHT -- Their writing in of the political climate of the country has been done well.

WRONG -- Making the series more Superfriends than Supergirl.
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agree. the show is at its best when the main / OG cast do what they were brought in to do. I loved James as the social /moral conscience of the show in S1, he stood up to Kara but fairly and with legitimacy. That whole aspect of the show went MIA starting in the first ep of S2. Any attempts to course correct that have just fallen flat as the Kara / James relationship has been so badly neglected and James has done either questionable or just plain boring stuff along the way to make his opinions and advice along the way irrelevant. The Alex character has been rehabbed a bit this season but I am nervous that they are heading back around to her lovelife instead of celebrating what should be a phenomenal female role model on tv.
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"A uniquely wholesome and intelligent reinterpretation of the old "annoying teen" Supergirl."

The "annoying teen" Supergirl was the New 52 version. The character of Kara on the TV show seems to be based much more on the original Silver Age Supergirl (who was sweet, cheerful, and intelligent), and perhaps even more on the young-adult version of the early 80s "New Adventures of Supergirl" series.
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Season 1 - Should have been her aunt, but suddenly gets replaced by Non mid season. The inclusion of Indigo helped though, but overall they were a bit cheesy.

I agree that sticking with Astra would have been preferable, but that wasn't possible due to actor availability. Laura Benanti had committed to doing a play in New York in early 2016, which conflicted with Supergirl's filming schedule. Even so, I still wish they had written her out in a less lethal way.
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- Underwhelming and non-threatening main antagonist (Season 2 and this season)

This seems to be a recurring problem.

Season 1 - Should have been her aunt, but suddenly gets replaced by Non mid season. The inclusion of Indigo helped though, but overall they were a bit cheesy.

Season 2 - Rhea doesn't show up till late in the season, so not enough time to build her up. She's reasonably threatening in that she has a fleet at her disposal, but she's not particularly clever and her agreeing to fight Supergirl one on one was a bit laughable. At the very least I was expecting more dirty tricks from her.

Season 3 - Should have been Reign and the other Worldkillers, but the other Worldkillers get killed off too early and Reign effectively gets replaced by the lame and again not so clever 'Witches'. It could have worked if Serena was better written as the 'Emperor' to Reign's 'Darth Vader', but in the end it just felt like Supergirl and crew beating up a bunch of old ladies. Coville also had great potential but ended up underutilized.

Season 4 - We're more than halfway through the season and still aren't sure who the Big Bad is, at least if you only watched the show. Agent Liberty is decent, he's smart and manipulative, and I liked how they spent time developing his backstory early in the season, but he feels more like a Coville than a Big Bad. Mancester Black is good as a rogue third party stirring up trouble, but again not Big Bad material. Red Daughter isn't the Big Bad either, since she's just being manipulated by others. We're left to assume that Lex is the Big Bad, but he hasn't even been mentioned in the season so far. Is he really just going to pop out right at the end?
Imra: "What about Tommy and Gina? 'You live for the fight when it's all that you've got!'"

Mon El: "Bon Jovi."

Imra: "Or was that all a lie?"

Mon El: "No. He speaks the truth."
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In conclusion it seems currently the bonuses of the show are largely peripheral and a lot of the core design is broken. The full potential of the amazing cast and setting are currently not being realised.
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