Quoting starlord:

Quoting DraftingDrafter:

I fully agree. Having Lena straddle the line of morality seems far more compelling of a narrative than being all good or all evil.

For a while. But in the long run it will become repetitive and not going anywhere with the character, i can not see they brought a Luthor on to the show to be a friend to Kara. There has to be more or she is completely useless.

And how exactly would her going full evil not be repetitive?
The point of a morally grey Lena negates your idea of repetitiveness. A morally grey Lena would allow for her to do both 'good' & 'evil'. It would keep us as viewers on our toes cause we wouldn't ever truly know what choices she'll make.

If she goes full villain then it gets boring cause of predictability. And I don't want predictability, I want surprise and conflict.

If I wanna see the typical Luthor/Super dynamic then I'd just pick up a superman comic or watch a superman movie/show. Instead, I want something new, intriguing and different.

And I honestly wish you'd quit saying she's useless. I get that you don't like her character but your continual attack on her is getting tiresome. If you truly wanna discuss her as a character maybe you should stick to the new Lena thread (as admin suggested to you last time), as this is not the place for this discussion so I'm ending it here.

Quoting superbill:

Quoting starlord:

I don’t.It doesn’t make her character grow and will become boring and repetitive. She needs to be evil like a Luthor is destined for and i think thats Why they brought a Luthor on to the show. If they only wanted them to be friends they would have cast Katie as another character. She serves nothing on the show as a friend or morally grey all the time. At some point enough is enough

I have to disagree that an evil Lena would allow more growth for the character and be more interesting. IMO surrendering to one's baser instincts isn't interesting at all; it represents either Lena giving up in despair or simply lazy writing, and in this case is painfully predictable. I find a conflicted person involved in an internal struggle far more compelling. Could it be developed better than it has been so far? Absolutely! But that is more an issue of writing, not character. I'm all in for a morally gray Lena.

I fully agree. Having Lena straddle the line of morality seems far more compelling of a narrative than being all good or all evil.

Quoting DraftingDrafter:

Quoting ClanRavnosisatroll:

[quote name="DraftingDrafter"][quote name="LittleHunter"]
Yes because god forbid a character not have an obvious character arc. Lena doesn't have to be like Lex or Lillian, she's more than her last name, she wants to be good, to help people and as we've seen in the past willing to make bad decisions to keep people safe i.e. when she threatened and had every intention of shooting Edge.

In my opinion having Lena go full on 'Team Evil' would be a mistake because it's way to obvious a twist now and one everyone's waiting for, but I can see her doing more 'bad' things for 'good' reasons and that becoming a rift between her and Kara (and now possibly James too). With Lena being the realist; willing to do whatever is necessary including killing to save lives and Kara the idealist; who wants to save everyone without killing anyone.



Nothing grey about Lena though...she just is

Let me amend my statement: I want a morally grey Lena.

I don’t.It doesn’t make her character grow and will become boring and repetitive. She needs to be evil like a Luthor is destined for and i think thats Why they brought a Luthor on to the show. If they only wanted them to be friends they would have cast Katie as another character. She serves nothing on the show as a friend or morally grey all the time. At some point enough is enough

Quoting ClanRavnosisatroll:

Unpopular opinion,i think a lot of arcs Lena gets should be James story arcs to me their both to similar and almost cancel each other out

What do you mean exactly? How are they similar? How do they cancel each other out?

I genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say...

Quoting ClanRavnosisatroll:

Quoting DraftingDrafter:

Quoting LittleHunter:

Yes because god forbid a character not have an obvious character arc. Lena doesn't have to be like Lex or Lillian, she's more than her last name, she wants to be good, to help people and as we've seen in the past willing to make bad decisions to keep people safe i.e. when she threatened and had every intention of shooting Edge.

In my opinion having Lena go full on 'Team Evil' would be a mistake because it's way to obvious a twist now and one everyone's waiting for, but I can see her doing more 'bad' things for 'good' reasons and that becoming a rift between her and Kara (and now possibly James too). With Lena being the realist; willing to do whatever is necessary including killing to save lives and Kara the idealist; who wants to save everyone without killing anyone.

It's unlikely to happen but that's what I'd like to see. As for James I just want to see him use his camera again in a

professional capacity.

Yes x1000 to both of the bolded statements. Morally grey Lena and photographer James are what I wanna see more of.

When was the last time we saw James with a camera? It's been too long.

Nothing grey about Lena though...she just is

Let me amend my statement: I want a morally grey Lena.