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Per that Ken gentleman on twitter, we now know that Maggie and Alex have "an amicable breakup". I'll be sad to see sanvers go, but if Floriana wanted to leave then I think it was for the best.

What would you all like to see with Alex's love life going forwards? I'm hoping for some flirting in the crossover between her and Sara in the crossover, and maybe she might have something going on with Reign (or even Lena)?
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I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha


Yes I believe he said Monel would be married to Saturn sombody. He probably didn't care enough to get the whole name. Some people were talking on twitter that maybe they picked Saturn Girl because she had a more prominent role in the Legion. I don't know if that's true or not. Somebody with more comics knowledge maybe ya'll can tell me. They were discussing which Legion members they could introduce without it being to cluttered for lack of a better word.

I don't think the Monel marriage (if it's true) is a big surprise because he was married to someone in the comics. Not that they always go exactly by the comics but that seemed the direction they might go especially after one of the producers talked about things being different when Monel comes back. Of course, this could all be untrue and nobody knows anything. Lol


There are so many different origins for Valor it's crazy.....but Saturn Girl at one point I think saves Mon-el, and I think she is actually a more interesting character than Shadow Lass.....and in the end there is a divorce anyway. So who knows if that is what happens here. I just think its crazy to get hyped up on ANY NEWS, that doesn't come from the show runners..... we know from our own experience that there are scenes that we see BTS stuff from, or are even in the trailers that don't end up in the 41 minute episode. I'm just going to chill and look forward to all of it. I'm just not emotionally involved in any of the ships so whatever happens to them is fine.
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I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha


I thought it was against the rules to wholesale make fun of shipper groups.

I'm fine with Alex dating around. I just wished that they hadn't gone around the route to actually get engaged and then break the engagement. I think they should have stuck with what Maggie hinted at in the beginning of their relationship, that Alex was too inexperienced.
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Well, I didn't like Sanvers since the coming out (which I identified with viscerally). So, I am happy if this is going to happen. And, I agree, I'd rather have Alex going out with others rather than have an off screen relationship.

I'd prefer the two of them to just be out and about the Season 2; with no drowning in one single ship to the detriment of every other relationship they have on show.

If they want to build other relationships build them over a long multi-season arc instead of just -4 episodes.

As far as wishing someone with Alex is concerned, I am looking forward to Alex-Lena interaction. Though I might not actually ship them. (I rarely ship people and my emotional investment even if I do like a pair is very tepid, so).

The only relationship I am really emotionally invested in and want to see on the show is Danvers Sisters; with the friendships and other ships with the rest of the cast thrown in.
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Per that Ken gentleman on twitter, we now know that Maggie and Alex have "an amicable breakup". I'll be sad to see sanvers go, but if Floriana wanted to leave then I think it was for the best.

What would you all like to see with Alex's love life going forwards? I'm hoping for some flirting in the crossover between her and Sara in the crossover, and maybe she might have something going on with Reign (or even Lena)?

I agree that breaking Sanvers up is the best option in this case. IMO I think it's better to end the relationship rather than continue with on 'offscreen' one.

I think I'd like to see Alex truly explore her somewhat newfound identity. The writers sort of just threw her into a serious relationship with the first woman she dated so I'd like it if she could date a bit and just have fun getting to know her newer self. Someone mentioned wanting to see a scene with Kara helping Alex to get ready for a date and now I just really want this to happen!

I'm not sure people should get their hopes up on a Sarah and Alex meeting.

Didn't another pap (Lindsay I think) tweet that Alex and Sara share scenes? If her info is correct I'd love to see some shameless flirting from Sara, a nervous/embarassed Alex and a highly amused Kara.
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I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha


Yes I believe he said Monel would be married to Saturn sombody. He probably didn't care enough to get the whole name. Some people were talking on twitter that maybe they picked Saturn Girl because she had a more prominent role in the Legion. I don't know if that's true or not. Somebody with more comics knowledge maybe ya'll can tell me. They were discussing which Legion members they could introduce without it being to cluttered for lack of a better word.

I don't think the Monel marriage (if it's true) is a big surprise because he was married to someone in the comics. Not that they always go exactly by the comics but that seemed the direction they might go especially after one of the producers talked about things being different when Monel comes back. Of course, this could all be untrue and nobody knows anything. Lol
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lolz GG for ships

Relating this back to the original topic, while I think the ending of Sanvers is for the better, the trend in CW DC shows is the writers really enjoy tearing romances apart for the sake of tearing it apart so they can make new ones, except on The Flash but I suspect that is because the comics state he's meant to be with Iris (though I guess that didn't stop them with Laurel). It's unwise in my opinion.

Quick survey, if you watch Arrow, do you still care who Oliver is with? I don't, not after changing a date almost every season.

I don't want Supergirl to go like that. In my opinion they found a good pairing with Mon-El for Kara, and the same probably goes with other characters. In my view Karamel should be permanent, not because I'm loyal to a ship but rather it's a good thing they have going and I'm done with changing. (But if you don't like Mon-El my point is she should find someone good and stick to it)

While Sanvers ends, Alex might as well find someone permanent. For me the continuous change in romance for the characters is not interesting and really cuts down the story.

Another effect of the CW writer's addiction to romance switch? It spawns ships. And ship wars.


The only reason sanvers is ending is because Floriana wants to leave. If she'd agreed to stay, I don't think this would be happening.
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lolz GG for ships

Relating this back to the original topic, while I think the ending of Sanvers is for the better, the trend in CW DC shows is the writers really enjoy tearing romances apart for the sake of tearing it apart so they can make new ones, except on The Flash but I suspect that is because the comics state he's meant to be with Iris (though I guess that didn't stop them with Laurel). It's unwise in my opinion.

Quick survey, if you watch Arrow, do you still care who Oliver is with? I don't, not after changing a date almost every season.

I don't want Supergirl to go like that. In my opinion they found a good pairing with Mon-El for Kara, and the same probably goes with other characters. In my view Karamel should be permanent, not because I'm loyal to a ship but rather it's a good thing they have going and I'm done with changing. (But if you don't like Mon-El my point is she should find someone good and stick to it)

While Sanvers ends, Alex might as well find someone permanent. For me the continuous change in romance for the characters is not interesting and really cuts down the story.

Another effect of the CW writer's addiction to romance switch? It spawns ships. And ship wars.
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I thought he said Mon-el would be married to Saturn Girl, which I thought was kind of weird since in the comics he is married and then divorced to Shadow Lass..... But don't use the Canon argument to the #Karamel shippers....they will come unglued.....lol Some I believe their heads have popped off. Haha
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At this point, I would encourage folks to take these as rumors. The source on this has a decent track record yes, but, it's too early to take it as fact right now.
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so what does this Ken guy say about Mon-El?


He says he knows half of this statement is true: "Mon el will be married to shadow lass like in the comics". Given that, I think we can safely assume he'll be hitched. Ken also says that "it won't be good news for karamel fans, from what I've been told", and at sdcc, Chris said that karamel wouldn't pick up where they left off when mon el comes back. All that seems to add up nicely.

Wow, if this happens the writers might succeed in ending the shipping wars by pissing off everyone at once, thus uniting them.
The Karamel shippers will be upset Kara and Mon-El are not together. The anti-Mon-El crowd will be upset the he is there at all. They will also probably think it unfair that the character they have such a low opinion of is the one that gets married, but they will probably also be relieved that this will keep him from getting back together with Kara.
And of course the Sanvers shippers will be upset that Alex and Maggie break-up.


I think some people will be happy about karamel being eliminated, and that's good enough for them. I know there are also those happy about sanvers leaving because they don't like the ship for whatever reason, bad writing included. In all, the move would make a lot happy and piss some off. That's showbiz, I guess.
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so what does this Ken guy say about Mon-El?


He says he knows half of this statement is true: "Mon el will be married to shadow lass like in the comics". Given that, I think we can safely assume he'll be hitched. Ken also says that "it won't be good news for karamel fans, from what I've been told", and at sdcc, Chris said that karamel wouldn't pick up where they left off when mon el comes back. All that seems to add up nicely.

Wow, if this happens the writers might succeed in ending the shipping wars by pissing off everyone at once, thus uniting them.
The Karamel shippers will be upset Kara and Mon-El are not together. The anti-Mon-El crowd will be upset the he is there at all. They will also probably think it unfair that the character they have such a low opinion of is the one that gets married, but they will probably also be relieved that this will keep him from getting back together with Kara.
And of course the Sanvers shippers will be upset that Alex and Maggie break-up.
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so what does this Ken guy say about Mon-El?


He says he knows half of this statement is true: "Mon el will be married to shadow lass like in the comics". Given that, I think we can safely assume he'll be hitched. Ken also says that "it won't be good news for karamel fans, from what I've been told", and at sdcc, Chris said that karamel wouldn't pick up where they left off when mon el comes back. All that seems to add up nicely.
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so what does this Ken guy say about Mon-El?
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I want Alex to develop a friendship with Mon-El. As Chyler said in an interview "future brother in law" Maybe get it on with a new woman that respects her. Wouldnt mind seeing her with Sara In crossover a little. Continue hanging with Kara, Mon-El, Winn, J'onn, James.
If you believe the rumors about this story then you aren't going to like what he's saying about Mon-El either, Highly doubtful that "future brother-in-law" thing could happen according to this guy's rumor mill.

I mean, mon el marries someone in the comics, so I'm not sure that's really a spoiler.
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I want Alex to develop a friendship with Mon-El. As Chyler said in an interview "future brother in law" Maybe get it on with a new woman that respects her. Wouldnt mind seeing her with Sara In crossover a little. Continue hanging with Kara, Mon-El, Winn, J'onn, James.
If you believe the rumors about this story then you aren't going to like what he's saying about Mon-El either, Highly doubtful that "future brother-in-law" thing could happen according to this guy's rumor mill.
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Ken the Paparazzi is not a confirmation.....he may be right, but to go off of a guy that may have heard something from someone on the set? May be true, but certainly not a confirmation. From the writers, director, producers, etc....is a confirmation. Ken is a pot stirrer. :p


He was right about mon el leaving, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Ken the Paparazzi is not a confirmation.....he may be right, but to go off of a guy that may have heard something from someone on the set? May be true, but certainly not a confirmation. From the writers, director, producers, etc....is a confirmation. Ken is a pot stirrer. :p
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I really liked Sanvers at the start. It was very touching and inspirational. But then Alex got kinda weird about it and the two were taking up too much time with arcs that have not much to do with the rest of the gang.

So I guess this is a good thing, for the integrity of the show.


I would agree on this. As separate people they were badasses in their own right and the chemistry between them was dynamite. But now i realize it was just a sugar high thanks to the writers (as usual) and it took away from the core relationship of this show, the one that held it together from the CBS year of season 1, Kara and Alex, which I think would be one part of the integrity of the show. And also it made Alex a weaker character, if you can believe it.

Besides, I think the Sanvers thing was way rushed...they went too quickly...again the writers. Now Floriana has something to do and perhaps it's time to end things, but on the upbeat note if it all comes to pass.


Yeah, the relationship was super rushed and Alex got super OOC. There is NO scenario where Alex would ever ever abandon Kara on her birthday. Ever. Sanvers, like a lot of things on the show, was well-intentioned but executed very very poorly.
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I'm not sure people should get their hopes up on a Sarah and Alex meeting. Being part of the crossover could simply mean being part of the Supergirl portion and possibly not seeing many if any characters from the other shows. I just don't trust the PTB and their information. Remember the 4 part crossover last year that wasn't? I just hope peopel don't get their expectations of too many specifics from what has been said thus far about the crossover. #Sanvers peeps had a nervous breakdown after seeing "Sanvers centric episode" and it was the "Mr. and Mrs. Mxy" episode and they weren't the main plotline, they almost exploded. So, I've learned to take what is said with a grain of salt, and only go with what I see from the episode itself. I was also excited about the "Ace Reporter" episode, and was sorely let down by the lack of Supergirl and when we got her she is taken down so easily simply to be saved once again by someone else. IMO, that is what plagued the 1st and 2nd season more than anything else. I was ok with it in the 1st season, she was learning, but then again, the let down in "Survivors", "Ace Reporter", and a few others.

There I was all excited on Twitter about how Kara FINALLY defeated the foe BY HERSELF, ON HER OWN and in a beautiful way......only to be drowned out on the writer's feed by #Sanvers fans b******* about the lack of #Sanvers. So, word to the wise, don't set your hopes so high that if they don't hit exactly as you want it doesn't ruin a very good episode for you. "Ace Reporter" was actually well written, and I loved the Mon-el/Kara parts.....but that mess at the end threw all of that out the window.
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I really liked Sanvers at the start. It was very touching and inspirational. But then Alex got kinda weird about it and the two were taking up too much time with arcs that have not much to do with the rest of the gang.

So I guess this is a good thing, for the integrity of the show.


I would agree on this. As separate people they were badasses in their own right and the chemistry between them was dynamite. But now i realize it was just a sugar high thanks to the writers (as usual) and it took away from the core relationship of this show, the one that held it together from the CBS year of season 1, Kara and Alex, which I think would be one part of the integrity of the show. And also it made Alex a weaker character, if you can believe it.

Besides, I think the Sanvers thing was way rushed...they went too quickly...again the writers. Now Floriana has something to do and perhaps it's time to end things, but on the upbeat note if it all comes to pass.

I would like the show to focus less on romance so if Alex stays single that's fine with me. Just have her hanging out with Kara, Lena, Jonn, Winn, James and Sam (Reign). That being said I think some flirting between Alex and Sara in the crossover would be great


Spot on there sheriek. Alex will be in the crossover (about time) and she and Kara will be an integral part of it. That said it would be a riot to see Alex and Sara well have some fun with each other, if not at least trade quips. Both can pull one out and drop the right bit of spicy sarcasm and look good doing it. I would also love to see Alex hang out with Felicity, Vixen, Iris and Caitlyn/(Killer) Frost.

Can't wait to see some behind the scenes pictures. And if there is one with all the women decked out (Kara, Alex, Felicity, Mari, Caitlyn, Iris and Sara), there would be the core for my version of the WJLA (Women's Justice League of America...all due respect to Washington, DC's ABC station).

Get ready for the hate storm from the Sanvers shippers


kdogg87, some people have better things to do...it's a TV show for goodness sake.
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