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Many of us myself included want Supergirl to face a physical threat in the same way Flash faced Zoom in season two and think Reign is going to be that threat.

@kdogg87 said something in the Mid-season Finale Updates thread regarding villains being a threat to Supergirl that I found interesting and deserving of its own thread.

“I think the issue is more that many feel she hasn’t faced a true threat the way her male peers have. Part of it’s because she’s Kryptonian. Part of it is because having a male villain defeat Supergirl is such a way would become reminiscent of domestic violence. But having the enemy be a female villain goes a long ways towards nullifying that concern.”

I can’t find it now but I read somewhere that when a focus group watched the “pilot” some people were uncomfortable with Supergirl being beaten up by Vartox. We know that Supergirl has fought plenty of male villains but the season two big bads were Lillian and Rhea. In season one Astra was supposed to be the big bad but we wound up with another female Indigo and Non, who was male but the fights between Supergirl and Non weren’t fistfights. In “for the girl who has everything” Supergirl beat the crap out of Non for putting the black mercy on her but he didn’t fight back in any meaningful way. In their final showdown Supergirl beat Non in a heatvision battle, not a fist fight. I know on Flash Barry has fought female meta-humans but the big bads have been male. I don’t watch Arrow so correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t all the big bads been male.

Would the audience be too uncomfortable seeing Supergirl being beaten up by a male villain in the same way we’re anticipating Reign will? What about Oliver or Barry beating up a female big bad? Is it possible for the main heroes to have a big bad of the opposite sex?
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It's real and it's bad but villains don't do good things they do bad things.

Plus she's Supergirl. It cannot be claimed on one hand she is many times more powerful than a normal man but while they can be hurt she can't.

I think the more there is a taboo on women being hurt in fiction, the more it reinforces the view that women are weaker. And in turn that drives more violence against women in reality, because the real misogynists do it because they believe women are weak.

If the show intends to empower women and then uphold the the view that women are fragile and should be exempt from violence the show kills its own message.
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@Kelly-I’d be interested in how those young men would feel watching Oliver or Barry take down a female big bad.

@Fedguy in a perfect world you’re right it shouldn’t matter but we don’t live in a perfect world. Violence against women is real.
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Under real gender equality, anyone can beat anyone up. If a gender cannot be depicted to be harmed the implication is that they are inferior and require concessions, so in order to be truly not sexist, one should not have a problem with women being hurt on TV as long is the reason for violence is not that they are women.
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She got that you know what beat out of her in the very first episode . I have to say my students watched it and they each wrote a short critique about it and I sent about 100 or so quotes from those two the show runners . One of the things that I found interesting is that the girls had no problem seeing that it didn't even phase them but I had several young men in my class who found that to be very hard to watch they talked about thinking of their sister and their girlfriend and their mom and they were very uncomfortable watching that. So I'm not sure that it would be a problem for women or girls before the guys yeah that may be a little bit uncomfortable but I see absolutely no problem with it.
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